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R2: WCE vs Carlton (pre-match discussion, changes p16)
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Author:  bluedog [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  R2: WCE vs Carlton (pre-match discussion, changes p16)
Good luck Blues.





I hope you win.
Author:  grrofunger [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
no way will i be going to sit at that subiaco shit hole
Author:  Humpers [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Boekhurst in for Thomas.
Do we give Jones another chance? Maybe replace him with a runner like Buckley.
Smith can remain in the side but as a sub.
Author:  Hibbo [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
I thought Jones done more fwd than Hendo vs Tigers.

I think Hendo needs to go back. I think he plays better there and I think he's more comfortable there.
Play Rowe fwd. And if our game plan is to bomb it then Casboult needs to play. Let Jones play as a third tall like Mick & Wiley said all preseason.
Author:  ryan2000 [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
- Drop Murphy. He doesn't give a shit so i don't want him wearing the Navy Blue.
- Play Bokehurt for Daisey (WA Boy, mature aged draftee and FFS that's why we drafted him)
- For the Love of GOD just leave a forward home at all times.
Author:  Hibbo [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 9:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
White. Jamo. Simmo.
Docherty. Hendo. Yarran.
Bell. Gibbs. Boekhorst
Everitt. Casboult. Jones.
Menzel. Rowe. Ellard.
Warnock. Judd. Carazzo
Cripps. Jaksch. Murphy
Sub: Smith or Tuohy

In: Warnock, Casboult. Ellard. Boekhorst.
Out. Wood, Daisy. Curnow. Tuohy or smith

NicNat will jump all over wood.
Need forwards that can mark high balls cos that our fame plan, has been that for 10yrs, hence Casboult/Rowe fwd
Jones to play 3rd tall as mick/Wiley stared all preseason, not key target
Curnow doesn't play unless he tags
Ellard prob most proven crumber on list
Author:  Hornet [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets @ AAMI Park 7:40pm


That's where I'll be...
Author:  jimmae [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
FB: Docherty Jamison Rowe
HB: Yarran Henderson Tuohy
CC: Gibbs Murphy Simpson
HF: Walker Everitt Bell
FF: Menzel Watson Jones

RR: Wood Cripps Judd

Int: Carrazzo Curnow Buckley
Sub: Boekhorst

Side needed more run and needs more weapons up forward. Henderson had no killer instinct all @#$%&! night and it hurt us so much. Throw Walker and Everitt up there in turns and linking to half back in turns. Bell was still threatening even when he decided he couldn't hold onto the ball for more than a 1/10th of a second before disposing.

Buckley will add the run that White couldn't; Boekhorst will be more of an impact sub than Smith was. Watson can do more for our score sheet and forward structure in 5 touches than Henderson can do in 15 at the moment.
Author:  2ndeffort [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Is it too early to tank?
Author:  John Smith [ Thu Apr 02, 2015 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Henderson is not a full time forward, needs to play that swing man role to change it up a bit.

I would bring in Casboult, might as well see if Henderson Casboult Jones can work early in the season. We clearly aren't going to compete in finals actions so we might as well learn as much as we possibly can this season.
Author:  rhys87 [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
My guess is....

IN - Casboult, Boekhorst
OUT - Jaksch, Thomas

They wont drop 4-5...... 2-3 for the next month to get the balance right is what they will do.
Author:  verbs [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
We are going to get spanked.
Author:  Rabbit [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
jimmae wrote:
FB: Docherty Jamison Rowe
HB: Yarran Henderson Tuohy
CC: Gibbs Murphy Simpson
HF: Walker Everitt Bell
FF: Menzel Watson Jones

RR: Wood Cripps Judd

Int: Carrazzo Curnow Buckley
Sub: Boekhorst

Side needed more run and needs more weapons up forward. Henderson had no killer instinct all @#$%&! night and it hurt us so much. Throw Walker and Everitt up there in turns and linking to half back in turns. Bell was still threatening even when he decided he couldn't hold onto the ball for more than a 1/10th of a second before disposing.



Buckley will add the run that White couldn't; Boekhorst will be more of an impact sub than Smith was. Watson can do more for our score sheet and forward structure in 5 touches than Henderson can do in 15 at the moment.


I like Everitt at CHF, swap your HBF Tuohy for Simpson and Casboult for Watson. I'd play Boekhurst and sub Clem.
Author:  chelodina [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:09 am ]
Post subject:  Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Humpers wrote:
Boekhurst in for Thomas.
Do we give Jones another chance? Maybe replace him with a runner like Buckley.
Smith can remain in the side but as a sub.


Lol.... How small do you want to go?
Author:  Blue Vain [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Hibbo wrote:
I thought Jones done more fwd than Hendo vs Tigers.

I think Hendo needs to go back. I think he plays better there and I think he's more comfortable there.
Play Rowe fwd. And if our game plan is to bomb it then Casboult needs to play. Let Jones play as a third tall like Mick & Wiley said all preseason.



Did you? Do you also see Hendo chasing Smiths man downfield several times while Smith trailed 20 metres behind?
Or wasn't that in the TV screen? Its not a criticism of Smith, he's just not fit enough.
Liam Jones needs to understand his responsibilities don't only apply when the ball is within 5 metres.

Our problem is forward pressure. We can't win enough one on one contests up forward which enables our opposition to zone off. Too often players like Houli and Batchelor were running offensively before the Tiges had even won the ball. 31 uncontested possessions between 2 defenders!
People on this site talk about cheating players. Richmond cheat infinitely more than our players. We're just good enough to punish them for it.
The outcome is Houli, Batchelor, Hunt and co run the ball up the ground with no pressure and hit up their forwards with ease.
Yet you and others are advocating we send into defence the only forward we played who could win a one on one or chased to apply pressure. :?
Author:  chelodina [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
The three pronged tall forward line is how we should play each game.

If Casbolt grabs some marks this weekend, he comes in at FF

Everrett and Henderson play HF flank because we never play the guts.

Armfield comes in for Thomas. Clem Smith gets dropped for Boekhurst. Everyone seems to want Boekhurst, but he showed nothing in pre season.

We can no longer play Judd, Murphy and GIBBS in the same midfield because they get cut up without the ball.

Give Cripps time in there or play him out on the wing as a link man. He has good size, he just needs to get some confidence and grow a pair.

We can't win, but at least we can start developing a brand and revamping the midfield for the future.
Author:  Braithy [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
casboult to camp in the square and lead out from it, and Buckley in a forward pocket to tap the brakes on their rebound. casboult will create the room for henderson and jones.

richmond went coast to coast to easily once we coughed it up in our front 50 ... need more speed at ground level there.

isn't clem smith meant to be a forward pocket? Mick played him in defense v the tigers.
Author:  Rexy [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Casboult can't kick, therefore shouldn't play
Author:  chelodina [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:30 am ]
Post subject:  Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
Rexy wrote:
Casboult can't kick, therefore shouldn't play


True but many of our forwards showed limited kicking abilities too. So I don't think this is a pre requisite at carlton
Author:  Hibbo [ Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rd 2: West Coast vs Carlton (pre-match discussion)
I don't like dropping kids after one week but I think going fwd we need Jaksch to be a fwd. he should go back to the VFL and have a few games as a KPF. We have to many KPP's best suited back. In mean time Casboult plays seniors. Hendo floating defender/swing man opposite to White. He reads the play well and us natural backman.
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