But a week or two at altitude offers so much
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| Author: | Effes [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:53 am ] |
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 7023516193 Quote: EXPENSIVE altitude camps may be a thing of the past after Collingwood and Carlton abandoned overseas trip plans next pre-season.
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| Author: | Megaman [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carlton dumps Arizona trip |
But a week or two at altitude offers so much
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| Author: | dane [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carlton dumps Arizona trip |
It's a great day to be trublu! He finally got one!! |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:43 am ] |
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dane wrote: It's a great day to be trublu! He finally got one!! Credit where it's due - but he's actually got a few. One of them is the goal posts. It'll happen...but like Arizona - the club has been relying on external money for these things. The financial situation would surprise many. There's a go-to list for different projects. Arizona and Qatar was largely funded by people on that list...pretty hard to put a name to an overseas trip...but there were a few parting with 10k to walk up Mt. Humphrey and have their picture taken with the boys - which probably compromises the 'bonding' trip, but brought the costs down significantly. Still - the 'Your Name Here' Goal Posts are a certainty for 2015 if you want to pony up the cash. |
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| Author: | robertbb [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carlton dumps Arizona trip |
Good. Absolute waste of time and money, in terms of the fitness benefit. The physical adaptations can be achieved by effective use of an altitude facility at sea level. We have one of those: http://www.pacetoday.com.au/news/carlto ... -art-altit The overseas trip was always more about bonding, and team challenges. These can also be successfully done locally at much lower expense. |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:54 am ] |
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robertbb wrote: The physical adaptations can be achieved by effective use of an altitude facility at sea level. Not quite right - you can't replicate the real thing....but for what they were doing and the time they were doing it for - very little benefit. |
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| Author: | robertbb [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carlton dumps Arizona trip |
Yeah that's what I was getting at: they could achieve with their facility here the same (minimal) adaptations as they gained from such limited time O/S. Agreed though, no comparison between the "real thing" and a chamber, specifically when we're talking a prolonged period of cumulative time "i.e. live at altitude, train at sea level". 
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| Author: | Clayman [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:48 am ] |
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We should stick to the Northern Suburbs. Just get the team to run up that hill near Bundoora Golf Course for a couple of weeks (Mt Cooper). Apparently it is the highest point in the metro area. They can catch the tram there each day. |
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| Author: | dane [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:52 am ] |
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Do you think we could save cash with fare evasion? Surely those inspectors couldn't catch the whole team. Brock may be in trouble though. |
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| Author: | robertbb [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:57 am ] |
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dane wrote: Brock may be in trouble though.  Well played.
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:38 am ] |
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Hopefully the boys go back down to Sorrento - plenty of good times had there |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:54 am ] |
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frank dardew wrote: Hopefully the boys go back down to Sorrento - plenty of good times had there Agreed. The wife and I were there in 2001 and had a great time. The limoncello is sooo good! 
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| Author: | kingkerna [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:03 am ] |
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transport there is a nightmare though, agree re the limoncello |
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| Author: | Rexy [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:13 am ] |
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Got to prioritize getting believe and confidence into the players minds. That's most important. Just keep them physically sound and mentally healthy. |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:17 pm ] |
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Rexy wrote: Just keep them physically sound and mentally healthy. Mens sana in capore sano? Should be our motto Rexy! |
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| Author: | dane [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:35 pm ] |
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DocSherrin wrote: Rexy wrote: Just keep them physically sound and mentally healthy. Mens sana in capore sano? Should be our motto Rexy! Sounds pretty good to me. Better email the club. |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:12 pm ] |
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dane wrote: DocSherrin wrote: Rexy wrote: Just keep them physically sound and mentally healthy. Mens sana in capore sano? Should be our motto Rexy! Sounds pretty good to me. Better email the club. Looks as though they're gonna go with 'Celebrating 151 years'  nah...no need...it's back in 2015...already signed off on months ago.
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| Author: | Heavs [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:35 pm ] |
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DocSherrin wrote: frank dardew wrote: Hopefully the boys go back down to Sorrento - plenty of good times had there Agreed. The wife and I were there in 2001 and had a great time. The limoncello is sooo good! @#$%&! you for putting Tina Arena songs in my head. |
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:46 pm ] |
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kingkerna wrote: transport there is a nightmare though, agree re the limoncello parking! The moon is a balloon. |
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| Author: | barass [ Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Carlton dumps Arizona trip |
Altitude training has become a staple for long distance triathletes (e.g Ironman), with many basing themselves in Boulder Colorado such as Craig Alexander. Many of the top professionals in triathlon (and cycling) use altitude training to increase their aerobic capacity among other things. To say altitude training is a waste of time is ill informed and naive. And Doc is right you can't replicate the real thing. |
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