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Author: | BluesRockMyWorld [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Here is one you can directly answer rather than give me a bunch of politically correct language What does Craig Mathieson know about List Management? Cazzeman and the guy who runs a company of 400 in particular Your thoughts And don’t say as much as I do https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1788 Keogh Read the above for a snapshot of his expertise. As you can see he is a Director on the board and is involved with finance and the audit committee. So given his background and duties as a director, what is the relevance of his knowledge or otherwise of list management? The fact is it isn't relevant, he isn't employed as the list manager..... |
Author: | Walsh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
MLG just give us a flag!! |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
On the website it says it’s one of his responsibilities |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Walsh wrote: MLG just give us a flag!! He wouldn’t have the balls to do it A harmonious working environment Tell that to all the sack coaches List managers Trigg Mitchell and Pagan SOS and Liddle And Bondi all clubs do what you said we do We know why Mathieson is on the board What was Pratt’ s contribution to all this fiasco She is Vice President At least Pence had a reasonable debate Enjoy the GF |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: On the website it says it’s one of his responsibilities I don't know for sure but my guess would be that as Board members, He and Judd are responsible for overseeing the Total Player Payment aspect. In other words, at Board meetings, those two have to confirm and sign off that Carlton is within the TPP guidelines, as set by the AFL. The buck stops with them after Head of List Management - Nick Austin and Player Acquisition and Total Player Payment Manager Michael Agresta have crunched the numbers. If the AFL is going to kick heads because the Club overspent, Mathieson and Judd are the heads to kick. Part of the Clubs Governance. That's my take. Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | Blue Vain [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Walsh wrote: MLG just give us a flag!! He wouldn’t have the balls to do it A harmonious working environment Tell that to all the sack coaches List managers Trigg Mitchell and Pagan SOS and Liddle And Bondi all clubs do what you said we do We know why Mathieson is on the board What was Pratt’ s contribution to all this fiasco She is Vice President At least Pence had a reasonable debate Enjoy the GF I don't understand the fascination with bagging the board members. Whilst we are sitting at home with our families in our nice warm homes, they're attending board meetings, engaging potential financial supporters and giving up heaps of their personal lives. For the financial return of zero. In fact, they're probably shelling out money for the opportunity. As for harmony, it's an elite competition. If we have coaches, CEO's or other employees who are not performing to their potential or to our expectations, move them on. As a rule, they're well paid and the expectation should be excellence. |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 7:53 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: On the website it says it’s one of his responsibilities I don't know for sure but my guess would be that as Board members, He and Judd are responsible for overseeing the Total Player Payment aspect. In other words, at Board meetings, those two have to confirm and sign off that Carlton is within the TPP guidelines, as set by the AFL. The buck stops with them after Head of List Management - Nick Austin and Player Acquisition and Total Player Payment Manager Michael Agresta have crunched the numbers. If the AFL is going to kick heads because the Club overspent, Mathieson and Judd are the heads to kick. Part of the Clubs Governance. That's my take. Regards Cazzesman And promoting harmony in the workplace as opposed to ignoring a CEO putting his nose where he shouldn’t |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Blue Vain wrote: keogh wrote: Walsh wrote: MLG just give us a flag!! He wouldn’t have the balls to do it A harmonious working environment Tell that to all the sack coaches List managers Trigg Mitchell and Pagan SOS and Liddle And Bondi all clubs do what you said we do We know why Mathieson is on the board What was Pratt’ s contribution to all this fiasco She is Vice President At least Pence had a reasonable debate Enjoy the GF I don't understand the fascination with bagging the board members. Whilst we are sitting at home with our families in our nice warm homes, they're attending board meetings, engaging potential financial supporters and giving up heaps of their personal lives. For the financial return of zero. In fact, they're probably shelling out money for the opportunity. As for harmony, it's an elite competition. If we have coaches, CEO's or other employees who are not performing to their potential or to our expectations, move them on. As a rule, they're well paid and the expectation should be excellence. Because BV the board is overlooked with every fracas that occurs off the field First everyone has a crack at Liddle Secondly everyone has a crack at SOS With every drama the board remains the constant Even when their time is up they replace someone cut from the same cloth. Rigged Their outdated In it for the wrong reasons Display weak insipid leadership You know which ones I’m talking about But they can’t be moved on Because of the rules they have created The fish rots from the head Just ask the dude poster who employs 400 |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Here is what I do Piss off everyone of the them including Jeannie Keep Patty Kinnersly make her President Get 7 other women who know what to do in running an AFL club in the 21 st century We would be a whole lot better You think I’m joking Nah |
Author: | cecil89 [ Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Here is what I do Piss off everyone of the them including Jeannie Keep Patty Kinnersly make her President Get 7 other women who know what to do in running an AFL club in the 21 st century We would be a whole lot better You think I’m joking Nah Find some SANFL or WAFL administrators and bring them in cheap. |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:59 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: On the website it says it’s one of his responsibilities I don't know for sure but my guess would be that as Board members, He and Judd are responsible for overseeing the Total Player Payment aspect. In other words, at Board meetings, those two have to confirm and sign off that Carlton is within the TPP guidelines, as set by the AFL. The buck stops with them after Head of List Management - Nick Austin and Player Acquisition and Total Player Payment Manager Michael Agresta have crunched the numbers. If the AFL is going to kick heads because the Club overspent, Mathieson and Judd are the heads to kick. Part of the Clubs Governance. That's my take. Regards Cazzesman And promoting harmony in the workplace as opposed to ignoring a CEO putting his nose where he shouldn’t Perhaps SOS was the problem and the CEO did need to remove his influence from others Perhaps SOS, after being head hunted by The President, though he had more power than he did at the club. Perhaps SOS came to believe he was the anointed savior, who had all the answers. Perhaps he butted heads with the CEO and one of them had go for the sake of stability. SOS v CEO and the CEO won. Such is life. I suspect SOS wasn't use to losing much in his life, so it probably came as a shock to him. Everyone still woke on the following Monday and the world hadn't imploded from what I can see. SOS's replacement, Mick Agresta is a good man. He learnt his craft under Kinnear Beatson who is highly regarded as a smart recruiter. You can pick and choose to blame who you like along the way Keogh. Any disgruntled supporter can throw enough mud at any club and something will stick. Even the Great Richmond had some big issues mid season. In a company that employ's 200 people you will always find a weak link or problem person. Apparently not every school teacher has been Mother Teresa over the journey. Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Nice cheap shot Cazz. Couldn’t help yourself. That’s cool. Things is the blame lies at the top. Always does in the end. No matter what business. Richmond dealt with those idiots appropriately. They didn’t hide it from their supporters. Carlton didn’t handle SOSs exit well at all. You need the right people at the top. You are always going to have problems in the workplace. It’s up to the head honchos to act. The board are weak and insipid. If you can’t see that this is the major issue your Carlton beanie is stapled to your head |
Author: | london blue [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Nice cheap shot Cazz. Couldn’t help yourself. That’s cool. Things is the blame lies at the top. Always does in the end. No matter what business. Richmond dealt with those idiots appropriately. They didn’t hide it from their supporters. Carlton didn’t handle SOSs exit well at all. You need the right people at the top. You are always going to have problems in the workplace. It’s up to the head honchos to act. The board are weak and insipid. If you can’t see that this is the major issue your Carlton beanie is stapled to your head Perhaps the people at the top made the right decision on how SOS left (and how he was exited). We’ve only heard from SOS. Perhaps the club is making the right call on not making comment. We are dealing with story vs fact. SOS’s ‘story’. And a ‘story’ that the board is not doing a job. Without the facts, for every story there is an opposite. |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:36 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
But it happens too often at Carlton That’s because our board is weak out dated or in it for personal gain Look what I hope Austin is a better List Manager than Silvangi I hope he can find some players with late picks Rookie picks mid season picks That we look at the WAFL SANFL VFL more closely It was all there on show yesterday At least his track record seems better than Silvangis’ If Liddle or anyone else does things outside their job description their pulled up by the board More specifically Mathieson, Judd and MLG And supporters are not kept in the dark about it The reason I put forward the women board Argument is that in my time in the workplace woman were better leaders than men. Better communicators Better personal skills Better at perceiving things Etc Carlton is still a @#$%&! boys club That is obvious |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: You need the right people at the top. You are always going to have problems in the workplace. It’s up to the head honchos to act. The board are weak and insipid. If you can’t see that this is the major issue your Carlton beanie is stapled to your head You can't have it both ways as much as you would like to. You are adamant SOS was a dud as a list manager. He is gone now, the CEO moved him on (for whatever reasons). And yet you are still not happy. Now you are pissed with the way the CEO moved him on and the comments he made. FFS make up your mind. You claim that SOS got the job in the first place because he was mates with the President and a few others. Now the CEO has stood up to the President and moved SOS on despite the friendship and you are still throwing a tantrum about the CEO. So SOS and the CEO had words about Brandon Ellis....big @#$% deal. Was the CEO probably out of line.........Certainly......IF the story is factual. The facts of the matter are, that the club is going well financially, with sponsors and membership is at an all time high. Lets be honest here for a change.......you would know SFA about what goes on at Board level, other than when SOS comes out to wash his Y-Fronts in public. You see that Mathieson is listed with the words 'List Management' and you jump at shadows. I provide an explanation about why that probably is the case and yet you blew right by it because it didn't suit your argument. Just stick to telling us all about the brilliant WA players who have been overlooked in the WAFL 2nds and give the rest a break. You are starting to make Synbad look like a wallflower. Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | keogh [ Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: You need the right people at the top. You are always going to have problems in the workplace. It’s up to the head honchos to act. The board are weak and insipid. If you can’t see that this is the major issue your Carlton beanie is stapled to your head You can't have it both ways as much as you would like to. You are adamant SOS was a dud as a list manager. He is gone now, the CEO moved him on (for whatever reasons). And yet you are still not happy. Now you are pissed with the way the CEO moved him on and the comments he made. FFS make up your mind. You claim that SOS got the job in the first place because he was mates with the President and a few others. Now the CEO has stood up to the President and moved SOS on despite the friendship and you are still throwing a tantrum about the CEO. So SOS and the CEO had words about Brandon Ellis....big @#$% deal. Was the CEO probably out of line.........Certainly......IF the story is factual. The facts of the matter are, that the club is going well financially, with sponsors and membership is at an all time high. Lets be honest here for a change.......you would know SFA about what goes on at Board level, other than when SOS comes out to wash his Y-Fronts in public. You see that Mathieson is listed with the words 'List Management' and you jump at shadows. I provide an explanation about why that probably is the case and yet you blew right by it because it didn't suit your argument. Just stick to telling us all about the brilliant WA players who have been overlooked in the WAFL 2nds and give the rest a break. You are starting to make Synbad look like a wallflower. Regards Cazzesman You simply don’t get or ignore what my main message is So I will say it again The fish rots from the head There is a thing called inference you know Let’s assume for a minute that what SOS said on radio is true. Clearly Liddle wanted SOS out because he thinks he is shit at List Manager Whilst this going on the board does nothing Liddle is a guy clearly that doesn’t like to stay in one workplace. He has goals to achieve then he moves on. I bet he rocked up to Carlton and said to himself “ @#$%&! me dead” Look what I have walked into He treads on SOSs toes deliberately Liddle knew SOS would crack the shits if the bear was poked enough and leave. And he knows the board will do nothing other than side with the winning team Cazzeman Im rapt he is gone Watson asked him about the McGovern trade SOS said the plan was to have MCGovern as a third option after Curnow and McKay up forward You don’t pay$700000 a year over five years for that. You know it He deflected his shit trade by saying the MC shouldn’t of played him as much because he wasn’t fit What a @#$%&! joke mate And he was handed the job on a platter By the @#$%&! board Who is more impressive MLG Or Peggy We know the answer to that one unless your a complete idiot Your not dumb but your veins are too blue SOSs legacy will live on for a while good or bad I honestly can’t see other than Walsh any of the mids he recruited to be much chop and stand up to Finals pressure Hardly any decent pickups with the latter picks And a smorgasbord of duds Fasolo O’Shea Mullet Moore Gorringe Etc Etc But he’s chosen because he is sorry was the chosen one until he went bang on Wednesday The board appointed him I assume that Judd and Mathieson thought it was ok to approve to give Betts and Murphy one year deals Plowman and Cuningham 3 Philp 3 years now Your @#$%&! joking The board is a joke I tell you what I’ll have a rest from this site and give you all a break One year Maybe two That’s a promise But I will be back and be the first to admit I was wrong if we really come on So have a lovely time with the rest of your we are ok what the @#$%&! would you know mates Chow for now |
Author: | dane [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
I miss keogh. |
Author: | london blue [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
keogh wrote: Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: You need the right people at the top. You are always going to have problems in the workplace. It’s up to the head honchos to act. The board are weak and insipid. If you can’t see that this is the major issue your Carlton beanie is stapled to your head You can't have it both ways as much as you would like to. You are adamant SOS was a dud as a list manager. He is gone now, the CEO moved him on (for whatever reasons). And yet you are still not happy. Now you are pissed with the way the CEO moved him on and the comments he made. FFS make up your mind. You claim that SOS got the job in the first place because he was mates with the President and a few others. Now the CEO has stood up to the President and moved SOS on despite the friendship and you are still throwing a tantrum about the CEO. So SOS and the CEO had words about Brandon Ellis....big @#$% deal. Was the CEO probably out of line.........Certainly......IF the story is factual. The facts of the matter are, that the club is going well financially, with sponsors and membership is at an all time high. Lets be honest here for a change.......you would know SFA about what goes on at Board level, other than when SOS comes out to wash his Y-Fronts in public. You see that Mathieson is listed with the words 'List Management' and you jump at shadows. I provide an explanation about why that probably is the case and yet you blew right by it because it didn't suit your argument. Just stick to telling us all about the brilliant WA players who have been overlooked in the WAFL 2nds and give the rest a break. You are starting to make Synbad look like a wallflower. Regards Cazzesman You simply don’t get or ignore what my main message is So I will say it again The fish rots from the head There is a thing called inference you know Let’s assume for a minute that what SOS said on radio is true. Clearly Liddle wanted SOS out because he thinks he is shit at List Manager Whilst this going on the board does nothing Liddle is a guy clearly that doesn’t like to stay in one workplace. He has goals to achieve then he moves on. I bet he rocked up to Carlton and said to himself “ @#$%&! me dead” Look what I have walked into He treads on SOSs toes deliberately Liddle knew SOS would crack the shits if the bear was poked enough and leave. And he knows the board will do nothing other than side with the winning team Cazzeman Im rapt he is gone Watson asked him about the McGovern trade SOS said the plan was to have MCGovern as a third option after Curnow and McKay up forward You don’t pay$700000 a year over five years for that. You know it He deflected his shit trade by saying the MC shouldn’t of played him as much because he wasn’t fit What a @#$%&! joke mate And he was handed the job on a platter By the @#$%&! board Who is more impressive MLG Or Peggy We know the answer to that one unless your a complete idiot Your not dumb but your veins are too blue SOSs legacy will live on for a while good or bad I honestly can’t see other than Walsh any of the mids he recruited to be much chop and stand up to Finals pressure Hardly any decent pickups with the latter picks And a smorgasbord of duds Fasolo O’Shea Mullet Moore Gorringe Etc Etc But he’s chosen because he is sorry was the chosen one until he went bang on Wednesday The board appointed him I assume that Judd and Mathieson thought it was ok to approve to give Betts and Murphy one year deals Plowman and Cuningham 3 Philp 3 years now Your @#$%&! joking The board is a joke I tell you what I’ll have a rest from this site and give you all a break One year Maybe two That’s a promise But I will be back and be the first to admit I was wrong if we really come on So have a lovely time with the rest of your we are ok what the @#$%&! would you know mates Chow for now Shame you’ve gone Keogh. Hope you are alright. You have a belief what SOS said was true. Fair enough. Perhaps it wasn’t true. You have a belief Liddle doesn’t stay in a job for long. Prior to joining us he was 7 years at Richmond. You have a belief the fish rota from the head and board aren’t doing a good job. Reads like you’re working yourself up over something without a complete picture of the facts. Take care during your break. Getting caught up in the drama of it all can be a burden |
Author: | Blue Vain [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The MLG board - MLG to step down in 2020? |
dane wrote: I miss keogh. Has he gone? |
Author: | Heavs [ Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:18 pm ] |
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Blue Vain wrote: dane wrote: I miss keogh. Has he gone? It was at line 534 in his latest post. |
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