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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:56 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
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What the crook (make no mistake he's up to his PwC eyeballs in crap) could of done is announce a review of the men's football program.

My opinion it's time - 3 years into Voss' tenure let's establish what is working and what is not. What are the areas for improvement, etc etc.


Any organisation worth its salt would be constantly reviewing their performance. Sayers and Cook wont be sitting back waiting for the stars to align for us. I liked the email. Give me that over the bullshit Melbourne approach of pissing down the supporters backs and telling them it's raining.
Trying to tell them all is just dandy when the joint is falling apart. We've got straight shooters in charge who are in a hurry for success IMHO.


Sorry BV we’re going to disagree on this one. Of course you continually conduct reviews and assessments but what I’m looking for is the announcement in the email that a proper review will be conducted by a external person/s with footy and/or industry experience.

The last 2 months was genuine amateur hour. The club got so far ahead of themselves that in the end they were scampering just to make finals.

Each of Voss three years has seen runs of losses and bad performance that he or we as a whole of club have been unable to arrest and stop. Why is that? Every chance a review may tease this out.

You mentioned Melbourne. I don’t give a flying flower what they say in the media. I’m really concerned with my/our club….strength together and all that. And BTW the Dees snagged their flag a few years back whilst we are still struggling just to make finals.

Bring on a proper external review!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:55 am 
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tommi wrote:
I read all 3….!


kindest regards tommi



which one was your favourite?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:48 am 
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There is already some scuttlebutt but the email preps us for the fact some/all of the busted up blokes you can have a beer with won't be on the list next year

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:39 am 
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There’s nothing wrong with the email.

There’s something not quite right with the match committee.


Just my opinion...they are either too scared to challenge Voss (and that includes Lloyd) or Voss plays the captains call card and Lloyd (as his boss) is too weak to veto

A strong match committee would not have even entertained the idea of bringing in a player who has not played football at any level for 24 weeks into a final

Here we were debating Cerra and TDK and how "ready" they would be, but we spent the week on the feel good story of bringing in Docherty

Sheer %^& madness

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:42 am 
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Lowey_47 wrote:
There is already some scuttlebutt but the email preps us for the fact some/all of the busted up blokes you can have a beer with won't be on the list next year

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We don't have Duncan on our list. He's at Geelong :grin:

Any clues L47???

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:06 am 
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Braithy wrote:
tommi wrote:
I read all 3….!


kindest regards tommi



which one was your favourite?




Interesting….

I thought the first one started off a bit slowly…
then the second one dipped a bit in the middle…
although the third one tapered right off…!


kindest regards tommi

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:16 am 
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tommi wrote:
Braithy wrote:
tommi wrote:
I read all 3….!


kindest regards tommi



which one was your favourite?




Interesting….

I thought the first one started off a bit slowly…
then the second one dipped a bit in the middle…
although the third one tapered right off…!


kindest regards tommi


Training loads???

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:22 am 
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Loads of something…!


kindest regards tommi







In all honesty though…i wasn’t offended by Lukes
message at all…it was a presidents message…!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:33 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:37 pm 
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Exactly Tommi, not like it was unpresidented.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:26 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
GWS wrote:
There’s nothing wrong with the email.

There’s something not quite right with the match committee.


Just my opinion...they are either too scared to challenge Voss (and that includes Lloyd) or Voss plays the captains call card and Lloyd (as his boss) is too weak to veto

A strong match committee would not have even entertained the idea of bringing in a player who has not played football at any level for 24 weeks into a final

Here we were debating Cerra and TDK and how "ready" they would be, but we spent the week on the feel good story of bringing in Docherty

Sheer %^& madness

You raise a good point 99 - where was Brad Lloyd in all this?
Clearly the coaching group took a number of cascading missteps throughout the back end of the year which culminated in the biggest misstep being team we put out there for the elimination final.
Ideally the coaching group would have got it right in the first instance but if they don’t surely the footy manager intervenes to stop the madness.
It struck me as a real failure of the footy department.
Not to mention the high performance department also reports to Lloyd who presumably signed off on the heavy training loads which broke half our list.
Anyway I’ll back Cook and Sayers to sort this out but Brad’s seat must be getting pretty hot at this point.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:41 am 
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camel wrote:
This email hit my inbox three times earlier tonight, I guess he nailed the consistency message…

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Dear Liam,

To be honest it was a hollow feeling waking up this morning, heading into the week knowing our AFL season is over.

There is no point starting this email by telling you we weren’t good enough, we all know that, so it is important to take ownership of the standard we set at the start of the year.

Back in March, we were very clear on what our expectation was for 2024 – to be a consistent home and away team, striving to finish in the top four.

Clearly, we fell short of that. In our performances and in our durability.

A season we wanted to be measured by consistency, was ultimately defined by inconsistency.

Eyes may glaze over when you see the word ‘consistency’ – people may find it dull, boring, cliché.

But it matters. Consistency matters.

And for far too long this club has not paid it the respect it deserves.

That is why, when you walk into our training field at IKON Park, you will see 16 flags hanging from the rafters – yet only one of them, just one, has an AFL logo on it.

What more motivation do we need than that?

We either embrace a consistent commitment to elite behaviour, across all levels of this football club, or we will get left behind.

I cannot spell it out any clearer than that.

We know when at our best, we are good enough, and I believe our best was absolutely good enough this year.

But we need to perform at the level we are capable of over a long period of time, not in patches.

Over the coming weeks and months we will address the areas that we’ve fallen short in and be relentless in making sure these areas will meet the standards of excellence that this football club now expects.

True unity is being able to look one another in the eye, being honest in our performance, ensuring that we move forward, with clarity.

Further evidence of our inconsistency was our inability to field a regular team on the park, for the entire year.

Only once in 24 rounds (Round 12 v Port Adelaide) were we able to name an unchanged line-up. In Round 24 against the Saints, we went into our most crucial game of the year with over 40 per cent of our playing list on our injury list.

That isn’t sustainable for success. We need to be better.

This game does not give up its rewards easily.

Reality is that if you want to succeed, competing in the biggest games of the year, there is a very real possibility that pain and hurt comes with the territory.

But we know it is worth enduring together, as one club, in order to give ourselves a shot at the ultimate reward we are all craving in the coming years.

Much will be said and written over the coming days about our football club.

Our narrative though will not be dictated to us by external noise

While this is not the way we wanted 2024 to end, we get to decide what it means for us in 2025 and beyond.

Before I finish, I sincerely want to thank you Liam: you have been incredible in your impact and support.

106,345 members, the most in the history of this football club.

An average home game attendance of 58,311– ranked No.1 in the AFL.

11 of out 23 games sold out.

It is going to take time for our collective disappointment to dissipate, however out of this we will emerge with a fierce determination.

One that will see our entire army, the biggest this football club has ever had, charging as one into 2025.

For the coming months our support centres around our AFLW side, who are chasing back-to-back wins when we host the Cats in our home opener at IKON Park this Saturday at 2.35pm.

The group has put in a mountain of work over an extended pre-season, and we wish Senior Coach Mathew Buck, captain Kerryn Peterson and all our players and staff the very best for what is to come for the remainder of the season.

So please take care and look out for one another, ‘Baggers.

For most of us, we were born into this, as Carlton people.

That means sharing in the elation as well as the heartbreak.

But no matter what, I am proud to share it with all of you.

Stronger Together, no matter what.

Go Blues,

Luke Sayers
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as i read this platitudinal private school captain rubbish i figured it was written by. a punter or club member. no it’s the condensed wisdom of Luke Backhander Sayers. wow, the privilege is all mine.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:30 am 
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Are we buying the "hacked" claim?

The club needs to deal with this swiftly.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:48 am 
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Always thought Josh Bootsma would return to the club in some capacity

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:50 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Always thought Josh Bootsma would return to the club in some capacity


:lol:

Carlton Respects, hey? :banghead:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:44 am 
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@#$%&! LOL but @#$%&! not LOL too.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:50 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:38 pm 
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Apparently he tagged someone in the since deleted tweet, anyone know who it was?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:00 pm 
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Apparently he tagged someone in the since deleted tweet, anyone know who it was?


Female senior executive at Bupa, a major sponsor of the club.


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Call me naive, but I'm not convinced it was him.

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