rhino27 wrote:
Unless you're saying our list is as bad the aints, you argument falls over very quickly.
I believe (and I think you do too) that our list is better than what is has shown and certainly better then the aints list.
The aints aren't the benchmark for us. If they are, we can't hand those keys back in quick enough.
For the record, I am not in the sack Voss camp though at same time I wouldn't bat an eyelid if we did.
Much rather we get him assistants that can actually help him. Some of our senior players need to be told in no uncertain terms, that this is a team sport and if they aren't willing to make sacrifices to make the team and their teammates better, they have no place at our club.
Damien and Richmond turned it around not only because he was willing to embrace change, but his senior players were too. They understood that individual brilliance could only take them so far. For example, Jack Riewoldt understood he could have a greater influence on the outcome of games if he brought his teammates into the game more. It wasn't about him kicking 5+. Some of our places need to change their mindset to that way of thinking.
No, I didnt say anything of the sort.
I'm looking at and discussing Mathiesons Messiah Lyon and what his team to do. They are losing games too.
I know that Vossy is a great leader and man manger. Harry has said that Vossy is such a great motivator you want to run through brick walls for him.
Nah, Vossy isnt the problem. he's not the one missing handballs, kicks and shots at goal. Nothing to do with the game plan.
If players want to execute their kicking and handball well, they can, if they are proud enough to do so.
As for list. Yes we have more first round inside mids than we can poke a stick at. So many that we give the peripheral ones like SPS Stocker and setters for nothing. Where's the outside run to help with clearances to give us run? Hello SOS? Cerra traded in for a first rounder. Walsh is a No 1 pick. Saad traded in for a first rounder. The list lacks a few things. I dont give a rats about Saints list because I cant change it.
I agree we need to play team footy and hurt the opposition like they go out to hurt us in this game of attrition. Its a brutal game, and we need bruted playing. Our midgets in the forwardline dont have any hurt factor because they are young and developing, and arent ready yet for the big time, and may never be.