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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:21 am 
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Has anyone joined this group or thinking about joining?

http://www.ycp-cfc.com.au/

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:35 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
Has anyone joined this group or thinking about joining?

http://www.ycp-cfc.com.au/


I know someone who is a member. I'm not entirely sure what they get out of it. I think it's a good excuse for the club to make some money and get the old money of Carlton's children and private school friends to hang out together. What's the bet that within 3 minutes of introducing myself at a Raheen YCP function I'd be asked what school I went to?

I think the bastardization of the Supporters Alliance which I discussed with Ryan Trainor in 2013 is shameful. It is closed minded to restrict it to just that group which is predominantly twenty and thirty-somethings. Also - the naming of it is the 'Think Tank' which given the clubs' recent history isn't wise wording.

I think having past Presidents and Board members kids make up the Executive is a joke and it's another example of a club so out of touch with reality.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:55 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Clayman wrote:
Has anyone joined this group or thinking about joining?

http://www.ycp-cfc.com.au/


I know someone who is a member. I'm not entirely sure what they get out of it. I think it's a good excuse for the club to make some money and get the old money of Carlton's children and private school friends to hang out together. What's the bet that within 3 minutes of introducing myself at a Raheen YCP function I'd be asked what school I went to?

I think the bastardization of the Supporters Alliance which I discussed with Ryan Trainor in 2013 is shameful. It is closed minded to restrict it to just that group which is predominantly twenty and thirty-somethings. Also - the naming of it is the 'Think Tank' which given the clubs' recent history isn't wise wording.

I think having past Presidents and Board members kids make up the Executive is a joke and it's another example of a club so out of touch with reality.


Jesus! It's one step forward and two steps back with this lot.


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'access to the inner sanctum'

oooh I'm so jealous !! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:05 pm 
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Seems like a fairly intelligent initiative to me. Am I just a naive out of towner? Why is the tone of this thread already negative toward the group? Doesn't seem like an exclusive club, I meet the criteria quite comfortably.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:28 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Seems like a fairly intelligent initiative to me. Am I just a naive out of towner? Why is the tone of this thread already negative toward the group? Doesn't seem like an exclusive club, I meet the criteria quite comfortably.


Everything Carlton does sucks!

Those young professionals are all Gen Y and as such are shit.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:32 pm 
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I think it is a very good initiative which is why I shared it with others here.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:37 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
I think it is a very good initiative which is why I shared it with others here.

:thumbsup:

Much appreciated. Didn't even know it existed until now.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:09 pm 
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Was thinking about putting this up.

Between paying an application fee, and giving details of your resume to "be approved" is embarrassingly dated. Just seems like something to do for kids whose parents were too lazy to get them on the MCC waiting list straight away.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:13 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Seems like a fairly intelligent initiative to me. Am I just a naive out of towner? Why is the tone of this thread already negative toward the group? Doesn't seem like an exclusive club, I meet the criteria quite comfortably.


Can you explain what's intelligent about this initiative?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:20 pm 
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dane wrote:
Everything Carlton does sucks!


Pretty much. It has loads of potential...but it just keeps @#$%&! up. Week after week after week...and I'm just talking off-field!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:16 pm 
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Hi everyone

I am a member of the YCP Executive Committee and I write for and on behalf of the other Executive Committee members.

The Executive Committee is very surprised to see some of the comments on here. We just wanted to correct a few of the misconceptions as we think that it is unfair to make such comments without knowing the facts.

We would also like to thank the people who have made positive comments and who recognise the value of YCP for both its members and the Club.

Firstly, YCP isn’t a concept that the Club devised and the Club certainly had nothing to do with appointing the Executive. YCP is a concept that we all devised ourselves in mid-2012 – that is why we are the members of the Executive. We took the idea to the Club in late 2012, the Club thought that it was a great concept and therefore have supported YCP and assisted us to launch in 2013. We are all really proud of what we have built so far and we think that YCP has the potential to make a genuine impact in the years to come. The feedback that we have had from our members has been really positive and many people have commented that YCP is exactly what the Club needs – new ideas and a new generation of potential leaders.

It’s offensive to say that the Executive is a “joke” and “another example of a club so out of touch with reality”. We have worked really hard to get this initiative off the ground.

All of the members of the Executive Committee have entrenched connections to the football club. For example, Georgie’s dad played 220 games for Carlton and Georgie was therefore born into the Club. Both Jess’s dad and Amanda’s dad were past Vice President and President of the club respectively. Nick and Josh have grown up attending virtually every Carlton game played in Melbourne (and some interstate too!)

We are all passionate about seeing the Club return to its past strengths and build on its successes, and we want to be involved in that process. We all share the aim of bringing new ideas, thinking and entrepreneurship to the Club. We were not content with just being a member and supporting the Club – we wanted to try to offer something more. That is why we are part of a group that we think can make a genuine impact in terms of shaping the future of the Club.

YCP certainly isn’t an ‘exclusive’ club – as cecil89 pointed out, YCP has a membership criteria which is simply that you have to be a CFC Member, between 20 – 45, and either employed full time, own a business or be an entrepreneur. Many people meet that criteria. We have no interest in which school you went to, we have not had reason to ask any of our members that question as it is irrelevant and frankly, we couldn’t care less. What we are interested in is what our members are doing now professionally, what they can offer the Club, the ideas that they have for assisting the Club in the future and how they can connect with each other to create a meaningful network.

We started YCP to provide a forum for young professionals aged between 20 – 45 who want to engage with the Club. We saw that there was no such offering and therefore a gap that needed filling. In terms of what people get out of it, the purpose is twofold – we want YCP to be a meaningful network for its members so that they can meet like-minded young professionals (who also happen to share a love of the CFC) and can start to build important professional relationships at a stage in their career where such relationships are crucial. We also want to encourage people to keep business in the Carlton family where possible. Many of our members have generated new business as a result of YCP and that is of great benefit to them. The other purpose is to provide genuine value for the Club, focusing not simply on money but on harnessing the potential of our members to drive innovation, new technologies and ideas to the Club.

YCP certainly is not an excuse for the Club to “get the old money out of Carlton’s children and private school friends to hang out together” – again that comment is offensive and made without any factual basis. We are simply having a crack at making a difference to the Club rather than spreading negative comments which don’t help anyone. We all love Carlton and we want it to return to the powerhouse Club that it was. We know that people have great ideas as to how the Club can improve both on and off the field and we want to help to bring some of those ideas to the Club where they can be developed and hopefully rolled out – that is the point of the YCP ‘Think Tank’. To be able to brainstorm ideas with the CFC Vice-Presidents is an amazing opportunity for YCP Members and something that we are very excited to be able to offer in 2014.

We hope that this has helped to clarify what YCP is about, the value that it offers to both its members and the Club and to correct the misconceptions that have been published on this forum.

If anyone has questions about YCP or would like further information, please visit our website (http://www.ycp-cfc.com.au/) or our LinkedIn page (http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostRece ... le-flipgrp)

Regards,

Georgie Austin, Jessica Newton, Nick Crema, Amanda Jolson (nee Smorgon) and Josh Kaplan
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:18 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
Seems like a fairly intelligent initiative to me. Am I just a naive out of towner? Why is the tone of this thread already negative toward the group? Doesn't seem like an exclusive club, I meet the criteria quite comfortably.


Can you explain what's intelligent about this initiative?


It appears to be a forum for young professionals with an interest in the betterment of the club to meet together and exchange ideas and propose new ways of taking the club forward. It then gives these people a stronger link to powerful members of the sporting industry, a link they probably would otherwise not have. A gathering of these types of professionals may also be seen as popular social involvement and may become attractive to non football people, so there's potential to attract new members and ideas from people outside the typical football environment.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:25 pm 
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Out of interest has:

YCP taken any ideas to the club?
Have any of these ideas been recognised and followed through on?
What is the pathway for the emerging leaders to join the board?
If a pathway exists do members get the right to vote that person in or simply an internal 'promotion'?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:39 pm 
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Well done JK sounds a good and positive initiative and and something we should support rather than bag .


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:43 pm 
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Thanks JK. I really appreciate your response. :thumbsup:

It would be good to understand what ideas you have put forward to the club and the clubs response to date. Is the club listening to you? I can imagine there are a lot of concerned and passionate people in your group at present trying to make a difference.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:48 pm 
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Couple of things:

1) Is it a group for professionals or just gainfully employed? Hypothetically, I could work behind the counter in a bottle shop full time, but I'm not really a professional am I? Could I join purely to try and pick up disaffected rich girls?

2) You mention that the membership criteria is as above. Is that all that is taken into consideration when assessing applications?

3) Your executive consists of backgrounds of Mount Scopus, Harvard Law School and Bialik College, with two others who wouldn't publicly list their background. Rest of your membership seems to have quite a high representation from Scopus and Bialik also. The rest seem to be past players (Ooo, Sam Cranage is in finance these days? That is a sharp suit too. I like it). Think it's a bit rich to "take offence" at those claims when they seem perfectly justifiable.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:07 pm 
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Josh...you're full of shit.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:30 pm 
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It seems fairly elitist to me.

Given our current plight, not sure it's a good idea to have a group like this. What are the benefits? Why does an applicant need to be a Carlton 3 game member?

And so on...

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I wouldn't join any club that:
a. Uses "criteria" as a singular noun; and
b. Excludes me because I'm 16 years too old. I'm young at heart, dammit!!!

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