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| Author: | The Rhino [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Didn't think he was a great choice to begin with, but amongst bigger levels of mediocrity never really was a pressing issue. Unfortunately, he made a promise as such about today being an improved performance, and failed to deliver, both as a leader of a team and as an individual. You're only as good as your word, and he's gone back on that (as part of a group, and as a leader of the group), and as such, should step down to focus on his own game, in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Wangers [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Give it to Simpson. The only one who flies the flag!! |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Struggled today under a tight tag. Needs to work both ways, but would it kill his teammates to lay a block or attempt some kind of physical intimidation of his opponent? |
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| Author: | keogh [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Yes hopefully it will be like Botham in the 81 ashes series. Hasn't got it in him |
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| Author: | DesEnglish [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Yeap, plain as day he's not a captain. Not a slight on him, some people just don't make it. |
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| Author: | Rexy [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
more important things to think about |
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| Author: | Cretylus [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
DesEnglish wrote: Yeap, plain as day he's not a captain. Not a slight on him, some people just don't make it. Under whom did Murphy learn and develop his leadership skills? He isn't a natural leader, so he had to learn most of the leadership skills he is displaying. Do we have any natural leaders at the club ? |
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| Author: | Hornet [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Good question Mr C If Murphy steps down it's easy to say Simpson / Carrazzo... not the answer imo So who looks the goods to lead us for the next 5-7 years? There's your problem |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Some people are born leaders, some people struggle with it. that's the reality of it all. I don't think removing the title now is the option, but a rethink next year definitely. the problem is im not sure there is anyone that warrants it. Simpson, perhaps, but that is only a short term solution. the club is in a world of pain unfortunately. |
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| Author: | paul_h [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
If I see another performance by Murphy that resembles his "not good enough, gotta get the boys up, blah, blah blah," BS outside Visy last monday morning. I'm am going to explode |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Hornet wrote: Good question Mr C If Murphy steps down it's easy to say Simpson / Carrazzo... not the answer imo So who looks the goods to lead us for the next 5-7 years? There's your problem Why does a captain have to be 5-7 years? |
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| Author: | idle [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
What an absolutely stupid poll. Show some bloody respect! |
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| Author: | cimm1979 [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
paul_h wrote: If I see another performance by Murphy that resembles his "not good enough, gotta get the boys up, blah, blah blah," BS outside Visy last monday morning. I'm am going to explode Better not travel by air this week. |
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| Author: | redback [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
ScottSaunders wrote: Some people are born leaders, some people struggle with it. that's the reality of it all. I don't think removing the title now is the option, but a rethink next year definitely. the problem is im not sure there is anyone that warrants it. Simpson, perhaps, but that is only a short term solution. the club is in a world of pain unfortunately. Some are made. He needs to be pushed and guided. Everyone around him needs to support him. This is the only way he will be successful. This is the only way we will improve and galvanize as a group. He isn't a natural leader but he could be a very good one in the end if given the right support. |
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| Author: | The Rhino [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Why? |
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| Author: | RickJ [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Didn't agree with you Rhino when you were after Juddy's head, but I agree with you about Murph. It would be unprecedented for a captain to step down mid season and it almost certainly won't happen. But he is just plain and simply weak. It's a poison chalice for him Perhaps the worst since Dale Monteith as Richmond captain couldn't get a starting 18 gig in a grand final side. |
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| Author: | Blue4ever [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
I feel for Murphy, the club is to blame for this. Murphy hasn't the attibutes to be the main leader. Stupid decision in the first place. Simpson should have been selected as Captain but then again he doesn't have the same marketing power as Murphy, the club was more concerned about the marketing. |
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| Author: | Mark J [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
Murphy is all skill and no leadership. We need some players on our list with the competitive desire of Selwood or Hodge It should be our number 1 recruiting priority...leaders with some mongrel.....FOOTBALLERS, not athletes. I'd give Touhy a go.  Skill and Hardness.......(just lacking condfidence atm, like the rest of the team) |
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| Author: | The Vet [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
It's time for them all to step down. Kernahan who has presided over this debacle, Malthouse, who has clearly lost the players, and Murphy, whom I think is a great player, but is not the on field leader we need It's time to go.... |
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| Author: | The Rhino [ Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Should Marc Murphy step down as Carlton captain? |
There was some talk the other day about whether individual brands are relevant or even existent in football. If they are, I'd say his is irreparable from a position of leader, or being capable of selling the idea to members young and old alike that he is capable of playing a role necessary to deliver Carlton a flag. Too often does someone who fails to deliver make grandiose statements like this (let's not forget the promise of retribution for Carrazzo among other cringers) Get back to playing footy. |
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