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robertbb
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:32 pm 
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pew1 wrote:
with jeffrey if the trade deal not in our fav jeffry stays . said this before we need middys that have speed so in the draft build our midfield (more home games at theG) and next year we offer boyd 5yr deal.


Agreed on Boyd. Give him another year there and get him to request a trade to us like Docherty did (or like White did to C*&^wood). Gives us a year to sort out which of our KPF's stays... Watson or Casboult (assuming he re-signs). Tipping Waite will be gone by 2016 (if not already gone...)

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THIRIODIS
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:52 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
What's Garletts value?
Just turned 25, kicked 43 goals last season. Averages about 1.7 goals per game.
Personally, I believe West Coast would love him. They're bereft of crumbing smalls. It's a glaring weakness in their structure IMO. LeCras is all class but injuries are taking their toll and he's as much a marking small as a crumber.
Is he worth their second rounder? (pick 29ish)

If he was, what would you do with it? Tom Mitchell may not be worth pick 5 but would a first and second round pick (5 and 29) net you Mitchell and Sam Reid?
Or are you better off picking up a Brayshaw and possibly McKenzie with 5 and 29 and trading 23 and 4th rounder (or whatever rubbish you get for Robbo) for a Jaksch?


West Coast will not have a second round pick this year.

It will most likely go towards their F/S (Waterman).

They will probably offer us a third round pick - or a trade for some dead wood like Ash Smith.

Our best bet is to try and entice Freo into Garlett (not that they would really need him with Walters and Ballantyne), but they seem to have more to work with (second round pick or/ Suban, Crozier, Sheridan etc).
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emtwenty
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:54 pm 
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Waterman won't be second round. Didn't even crack a draft combine invite. I doubt anyone will bid for him & make WCE use their second.
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THIRIODIS
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
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In that case, we can expect their second round pick (~29?) ... which I would take.
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emtwenty
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
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Same if we have to. But I want to keep him - although I doubt there's any chance of that happening.
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Navy Blue Horse
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
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emtwenty wrote:
Same if we have to. But I want to keep him - although I doubt there's any chance of that happening.



If his minds shot as Synbad suggests, why do you want to keep him? A good car with a dud engine is a dud car.

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emtwenty
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:28 pm 
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Because people were just as critical of Yarran last year, and we seemed to have fixed him.
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Rocky Henderson
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:02 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Same if we have to. But I want to keep him - although I doubt there's any chance of that happening.



If his minds shot as Synbad suggests, why do you want to keep him? A good car with a dud engine is a dud car.


And that's why we're sponsored by Hyundai :razz:
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blueboy23
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:17 pm 
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Needs;
Tall forward
Tall defender
3/4 mids
Retire/delist;
Scotland, Bootsma, Duigan, McInnes, Cachia,
Ellard and Temay.
Trade;
Casboult, Garlett, Robinson, Lucas and Warnock,
If deal not suitable then we keep them..
Reckon we could land a few second rounders and a couple of third rounders..
Would like,
Kristian Jaksch from GWS, similar to Henderson..
Pick 6, the best available, probably a mid or Sam Durdin..
Whatever other picks we get, load up on mids, who can kick..
Bring on draft week...
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bondiblue
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:46 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
Needs;
Tall forward
Tall defender
3/4 mids
Retire/delist;
Scotland, Bootsma, Duigan, McInnes, Cachia,
Ellard and Temay.
Trade;
Casboult, Garlett, Robinson, Lucas and Warnock,
If deal not suitable then we keep them..
Reckon we could land a few second rounders and a couple of third rounders..
Would like,
Kristian Jaksch from GWS, similar to Henderson..
Pick 6, the best available, probably a mid or Sam Durdin..
Whatever other picks we get, load up on mids, who can kick..
Bring on draft week...


Fair call.

Would like to keep Robbo...and hope for a Garlett renaissance at Carlton.

I reckon pick 6, 20, a FA and a good trade or two and we can turn things around in 2015.
Add Kreuzer Henderson Everitt Walker Thomas Buckley ..and maybe Robbo & Garlett

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THIRIODIS
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:56 am 
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I would be happy with giving up Pick #6 to GWS for Jaksch and O'Rourke.
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woof
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:46 am 
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What's probably more important than if you are happy is whether GWS is happy.
I don't think so.
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emtwenty
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:48 am 
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Only GWS rated O'Rourke @ pick 2. Dogs rated him as a second rounder for eg.
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woof
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:53 am 
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So what is your point?
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emtwenty
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:54 am 
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woof wrote:
So what is your point?

GWS won't be getting what they paid for O'Rourke.
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THIRIODIS
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:38 pm 
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woof wrote:
What's probably more important than if you are happy is whether GWS is happy.
I don't think so.


I imagine they'd be pretty happy.
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SnickerS
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
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O'Rourke is average
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woof
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:58 pm 
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THIRIODIS wrote:
woof wrote:
What's probably more important than if you are happy is whether GWS is happy.
I don't think so.


I imagine they'd be pretty happy.


I think they would be far more happier with a quality ready made player rather than another early draft pick.
I would be extremely surprised if the GWS strategy this year is to trade 2-3 year in the system kids for draft picks.
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kezza
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:22 pm 
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Very reliable poster on BF saying that Robbo will stay, Garlett gone and Higgins definately coming next year on a 3 year deal.
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Barone
 Post subject: Re: List Management 2014
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:59 pm 
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I'd suggest we take someone like Shaun Higgins in the trade period. If Malthouse can get the best out of him we could get him for a steal and his ability to play midfield, back and forward is exactly what malthouse is after.

Robbo was playing great team football prior to his incident, and I beleive he has more to give. Should definetly be kept.

Would we look at someone like hames gwilt as a 3rd tall defender? He has had experience in finals and as the 3rd defender could find his form again. Was never a great player but could come very cheaply into the salary cap. Just an opinion and trying to get everyone thinking.
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