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| Author: | sticksaftersiren87 [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | One-Paced Midfield |
Mclean Ellard Curnow Carazzo Graham Cripps Cachia Robinson Bell Temay Holman How many of these blokes can you play at once? Recruiting is diabolical |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
We are slow but it's not always about leg speed. The ability to use the ball and use it well can make any side look kick. IMO it comes back to our kicking. I'm hopeful Graham, Cripps are better users of the ball. Look at Yarran for example. Quick, last night broke the lines several times and kicked it to the wrong position again and again. 
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| Author: | mots [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Spot on Psych. We have very few good users of the footy let alone elite users. |
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| Author: | BIRDTOWN [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
ThePsychologist wrote: We are slow but it's not always about leg speed. The ability to use the ball and use it well can make any side look kick. IMO it comes back to our kicking. I'm hopeful Graham, Cripps are better users of the ball. Look at Yarran for example. Quick, last night broke the lines several times and kicked it to the wrong position again and again. That is regularly Yazz's problem which was also compounded with his kicking at goal last year taking away his impact as a forward. Would like to see him as wingman/HFF that can hurt on the scoreboard i.e. vs Richmond 3 goals and a nice running goal vs Port. Unfort. by the looks of Graham last year his disposal was not a highlight and speed is not a strength but he might have ticker. Wasn't it a couple of years ago that Shane Rogers stated that speed, speed, speed was the mandate for the modern game & players to be looked at? |
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| Author: | sticksaftersiren87 [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Agree, but some of these guys cant kick either. And most cant kick with any speed or penetration. |
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| Author: | Siegfried [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Nail on head Sticks. I've been saying this for 2 years. And it doesn't seem as though Graham or Cripps are going to change that. Psych, yes, you're right, it's also about ball use, and most of those guys are slow AND not good users. But even if they were, you can only afford to have one or two in your team at once. Mitchell at Hawthorn. Slow but brilliant at getting and using the ball. He and Sewell both excellent footballers, but they get away with 2 slows because they're very good, and those around have leg speed. |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Siegfried wrote: Nail on head Sticks. I've been saying this for 2 years. And it doesn't seem as though Graham or Cripps are going to change that. Psych, yes, you're right, it's also about ball use, and most of those guys are slow AND not good users. But even if they were, you can only afford to have one or two in your team at once. Mitchell at Hawthorn. Slow but brilliant at getting and using the ball. He and Sewell both excellent footballers, but they get away with 2 slows because they're very good, and those around have leg speed. Yep. I agree. Graham I believe is a good kick in the Mitchell mold. Wont kick it 60m but will create and hit targets. Just makes me wonder why we keep selecting Robinson, Curnow etc. Look at Hawthorn, Geelong & Essnedon over the weekend. WOW their kicking is elite, it's impressive. There is no way we could realistically compete with these teams. I would put GCS and GWS above us. That's how far we are behind. |
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| Author: | BIRDTOWN [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Siegfried wrote: Nail on head Sticks. I've been saying this for 2 years. And it doesn't seem as though Graham or Cripps are going to change that. Psych, yes, you're right, it's also about ball use, and most of those guys are slow AND not good users. But even if they were, you can only afford to have one or two in your team at once. Mitchell at Hawthorn. Slow but brilliant at getting and using the ball. He and Sewell both excellent footballers, but they get away with 2 slows because they're very good, and those around have leg speed. Perfect example of them gaining Isaac Smith. Complements their inside ball winners with outside run (and he can kick). Bradley Hill as well. Our disposal all over the gound is average. This is where Kane Lucas should be making his own but another with shaky disposal. I think he needs to be settled on the wing to add some run, he either makes it or he's done. It seems our back half is not as settled, or playing as well as last year, which is not normal under MM. 1AW is supposed to be one of our better kicks but what the hell was he dishing up last night.... |
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| Author: | Pafloyul [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein. |
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| Author: | Stefchook [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
BIRDTOWN wrote: Siegfried wrote: Nail on head Sticks. I've been saying this for 2 years. And it doesn't seem as though Graham or Cripps are going to change that. Psych, yes, you're right, it's also about ball use, and most of those guys are slow AND not good users. But even if they were, you can only afford to have one or two in your team at once. Mitchell at Hawthorn. Slow but brilliant at getting and using the ball. He and Sewell both excellent footballers, but they get away with 2 slows because they're very good, and those around have leg speed. Perfect example of them gaining Isaac Smith. Complements their inside ball winners with outside run (and he can kick). Bradley Hill as well. Hill was drafted in the 40s I think. And in a compromised draft as well. So it's not as though we couldn't have got someone like him. I agree the combination of slow and poorly skilled is pretty diabolical. Even so, you can still cover for these deficiencies if you're really well disciplined and coached. Like Sydney have been. |
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| Author: | Stiffler's Dad [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
You say one-paced.....I say one-paced and clumsy. Our midfielders would need 5 goes at picking up a briefcase if they were sitting next to it. Woeful I say! 
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| Author: | pew1 [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
I saw this couple years ago (same pace players) so i was hoping to get a quick middy some1 who got breakaway speed.So we get cachia back.How bad is our recruiting. |
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| Author: | Kouta [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Lewis, Hodge, Mitchell, Simpkin, Shiels, Sewell, Hallahan, Breust and Jordan Kelly. Watson, Goddard, Myers, Stanton, Heppell, Hocking, Howlett and Chapman. Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow, Crowley, Suban, Sheridan, Crozier, De Boer, Ballantyne. Selwood, Bartel, Caddy, Christensen, Kelly, Duncan, Enright, Thurlow, Jansen, Smedts, Lang, Horlin-Smith, Schroder. McVeigh, Kennedy, Parker, Mitchell, Newton, Jones, Malceski, etc. These players who play for top eight teams can't be labelled fast. Yet these players can play football. Poor thread that is nothing but a vent with no substance. |
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| Author: | The Normal One [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | One-Paced Midfield |
Vital ingredient when slow is football intelligence and great disposal skills. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Love your stuff kouta. Slow one paced , fumblers, poor users of the ball and soft with no work ethic or endurance. How's that for a midfield? |
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| Author: | pew1 [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Good points kouta so which one of our midds would get a game in 1 of those teams. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
kouta likes hbfers anyway....huge fan over the years. not big on mids. but i miss the days when kouta compared players with other players for instance bell was mitchll curnow is bartell murphy is hodge and nat fyffe is not as good as lucas says it all about the bloke.... |
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| Author: | TheSwan [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
#GETFYFE |
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| Author: | Juddy&theKruezers [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: One-Paced Midfield |
Synbad wrote: kouta likes hbfers anyway....huge fan over the years. not big on mids. but i miss the days when kouta compared players with other players for instance bell was mitchll curnow is bartell murphy is hodge and nat fyffe is not as good as lucas says it all about the bloke.... I remember speaking with a blues supporter a little while back who said bell would be the next kouta... 
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| Author: | dane [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | One-Paced Midfield |
That was said on here numerous times. |
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