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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:37 pm 
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An article by Gary Lyon using his awesome powers of hindsight to tell us all Chris Judd chose the wrong club when he picked Carlton over the three other alternatives he entertained when he left West Coast. Nothing stunning or particularly insightful, but a small fact he states doesn't gel with my recollection of the time.

"Kennedy, the player who was traded to the Eagles for Judd, is one of the dominant key forwards in the game, while the forward they kept - who was the Eagles' preference - Brendan Fevola, was traded to the Lions two years after Judd arrived."

My memory was that the Eagles weren't interested in Fev, but wanted a WA boy so they wouldn't face the same problem of a homesick Victorian wanting to leave in the future. The choice was between Kennedy and Bower, not Kennedy and Fevola. Does Gary actually have some inside info I don't recall or is he just wrong?

I suspect the club would have traded Fev for Judd and kept Kennedy if it were an option. I'm sure I remember the club supposedly offering Fev around at the time, but he had little currency at other clubs.

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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chris-judd-picked-the-wrong-club-20140404-zqql6.html


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:40 pm 
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fevola wasn't the eagles preference

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:41 pm 
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More Carlton bashing. Yep, Garry is right. Judd should have chosen Melbourne.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:48 pm 
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youll get bashed all day long every day..if youre crap
u wont get bashed when youre showing that your feared
crap clubs always were bashed
not sure why people are getting angry
when we were great nobody dared... but the crap sides were being bashed
youre an easy target if youre crap

only one thing will turn things arund.. and its not being crap

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:52 pm 
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yep. It's our turn to be bashed.
might shake the club into some action.
MM said we have 3 'A' players not including Judd.
Our B's can't become A's and our C's can't become B's. (MM's words apparently)
When your coach has no faith in you, and is worried about saving his own reputation first,
yeah, I'd say we are in a touch of strife.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:02 pm 
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someone said to me that i poison peoples minds and that the club is going well and hes happy with the direction of the footy club.


im a very powerful man ... i posison the medias mind too... after all the club is coming along very well

i think these kinds of people are a hinderance to what needs to be done... they really need to look at the club from a step back.

the club is losing members.. support.. and presitge as well as ground... shits me that people can say shit liek that to me...

"poison peoples minds eh"????

:screwy:

one of the worst things people can do is try to stop some from criticising because theyre afraid of the fallout .. when in fact the problem is the people around the club and not me.

i took great offence of course.... :wink:

iF ANYBODY again suggests i have to do something or shit up... ill go more ballistic than i did to that person...

i dont have to do jack-shit except point the spotlight at these morons around the club....the media is about to join in and expose these fakes for what they are.

but do not ever again suggest i ether do something to kick them out or "shut up" ahmad fahour is a much more powerful man than i am and hes not been given a sniff....

ill do what i do best.. and do the spotlighting...

its becoming obvious for everybody now anyway.... but i wont stop...

"put up or shut up..." pfffffft.. as if...!!! :screwy:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:22 pm 
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Whatever you do don't shit up.

Always ends in tears.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:33 pm 
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Judd did choose the right club it's just that we were too sh!t to make the most of it. Our recruiting and player development made sure that we turned it into a lost opportunity


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:36 pm 
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marciblues wrote:
Judd did choose the right club it's just that we were too sh!t to make the most of it. Our recruiting and player development made sure that we turned it into a lost opportunity

he should have stayed at wc and been a one club player...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:46 pm 
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Gary Lyon can argue that he should have picked Collingwood or Hawthorn but Essendon** is a bit too much.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:52 pm 
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it actually doesnt matter what lyon really thinks
what hurts is we hate to be ridiculed.. and we are.

but that goes with the territory of being crap

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:53 pm 
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Essendon* lol

wasn't going to go from one druggy club to another

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 7:54 pm 
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Out of the four clubs Judd picked on his list only one has had any success - the rest have risen no higher than mediocrity and have generally just been plain shit.

Dumb article.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:05 pm 
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Go Gary! :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:07 pm 
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I stopped reading after 'Gary Lyon' used the word 'prevaricating'.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:12 pm 
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What Lyon's conveniently forgotten is that the other clubs had very little to give away.

Carlton had some excellent picks with which to trade. The others had mediocre picks and they wouldn't have traded away any of their up and coming players.

Judd had some integrity, he wasn't going to go somewhere where the Eagles would not get reasonable compensation.

Garry Lyon is ducking the issue yet again. What is he doing for the Melbourne Football Club? What has he done over the last few years? If he would put his money where his mouth is, he would have taken up the coaching gig but alas no.

I have the Biffs, Bumps and Brawlers DVD and Lyon is the victim of many a hit. One might get the impression that he was unfairly dealt with but there is a part of me that thinks he deserved it.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:13 pm 
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carlton had some visy specials

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 8:24 pm 
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CarltonClem wrote:
What Lyon's conveniently forgotten is that the other clubs had very little to give away.

Carlton had some excellent picks with which to trade. The others had mediocre picks and they wouldn't have traded away any of their up and coming players.

Judd had some integrity, he wasn't going to go somewhere where the Eagles would not get reasonable compensation.

Garry Lyon is ducking the issue yet again. What is he doing for the Melbourne Football Club? What has he done over the last few years? If he would put his money where his mouth is, he would have taken up the coaching gig but alas no.

I have the Biffs, Bumps and Brawlers DVD and Lyon is the victim of many a hit. One might get the impression that he was unfairly dealt with but there is a part of me that thinks he deserved it.

Squealer.

Garry helped pick their last sacked coach didnt he? I think thats where it ends though

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:36 pm 
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carlton had some visy specials

and the AFL were going to give us a hand getting up there again....they turned a blind eye to a questionable 3rd party renumeration package.... whch they later took away.. and rightly so

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:41 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
Essendon** lol

wasn't going to go from one druggy club to another


I believe that was the Hawthorn reason...


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