Unfortunately Wayne Hughes and Brett Ratten, haven't left us e renovators delight, this will be full knock down and rebuild.
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Start the renovation Mick: It's official! (p11) |
After the last 2 weeks its obvious that the side needs a renovation - hope Mick coaches for the rest of the season on this basis - must play every week from now on lucas bell buckley Watson menzel need to blood cripps and give graham a go Need to give these guys the confidence and game time to seek to take the footy club forward in the future - ned to get them playing consistently 4 quarters of football because we haven't done this now for about 4 years Don't play Kreuzer Judd carrazzo until they actually are fit Make a decision on rowe ellard white And by the way improve our bloody kicking for goal ITS KILLING US TIME AND TIME AGAIN Hope the 150 th celebration doesn't get in the way of this ie pressure on winning games to the detriment of playing young players |
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| Author: | BIRDTOWN [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Put your team out there, Frank, with all the youngsters in there? Who makes way, or like you say, don't play those on reputation/under injury clouds - easier said than done at this club unfortunately. Buckley Jamison Watson Tuohy Henderson Simpson Yarran Gibbs Thomas Walker Casboult Menzel Garlett Waite Everitt Warnock, Curnow, Murphy +Lucas, Graham, Bell, Cripps # Holmann, McInnes, Bootsma, Docherty, Giles, Cachia |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
We aren't exactly going to torch the season and play the whole list just yet, though the chances of us making the 8 don't look flash. Play Watson every week?!?!?! I have seen enough he won't make it. Cripps, Holman and Graham will get opportunities but I we won't chuck them all in at once. I don't see what it would achieve by doing so. We will see at least half of McLean, Bell, Robbo, Cachia and Ellard gone by seasons end, out of those Bell has the most upside and I think Cachia would offer us more than Robbo at the moment. Buckley and Menzel were massive plusses from tonight. We need to see how Buckley goes when opposition get more of a look at him but he seems like a version of Lucas who actually relishes a contest and has a bit of spunk to him. So don't nuclear bomb the whole thing. There is still a fair bit to work with, just we are paying for awful and non sensical recruiting. |
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| Author: | AGRO [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Unfortunately Wayne Hughes and Brett Ratten, haven't left us e renovators delight, this will be full knock down and rebuild.
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| Author: | Bluey44 [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
If we lose to the bummers that's it Time to play the kids everyweek If anyone can do it and be backed up by the board, Its mick |
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
agree we also need when he is fit to play Docherty - we need our youngsters to learn off simmo Jamison Henderson and of course judd when he is fit Don't think I am burning the season too early - well behind Port who are top 8 material and cant play a composed enough games to beat wobbly tigers who almost give the game back - we also need to find a new group of leaders as this one has taken us as far as we can go Club needs to recognise and be truthful where our list is at - present senior list has taken us as far as it can and will have us marking time if we don't try to re-shape it - take a step back play the youngsters and go heavily into draft from a good position |
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| Author: | mikeychook [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
frank dardew wrote: agree we also need when he is fit to play Docherty - we need our youngsters to learn off simmo Jamison Henderson and of course judd when he is fit Don't think I am burning the season too early - well behind Port who are top 8 material and cant play a composed enough games to beat wobbly tigers who almost give the game back - we also need to find a new group of leaders as this one has taken us as far as we can go Club needs to recognise and be truthful where our list is at - present senior list has taken us as far as it can and will have us marking time if we don't try to re-shape it - take a step back play the youngsters and go heavily into draft from a good position Port are top four contenders. Very well balanced side. |
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| Author: | cimm1979 [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Didn't see the game but sounded like we played some form kick to kick in the first quarter. Big bombs hoping for hangs and crumb goals. Is that a list issue or a Mick issue. It's also what we did lat year IN A SHIT LOAD OF GAMES, most notably the Bombers game which we should have won by 20 goals. |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
complete failure of a game plan bombed long for ages and had 5 contested marks late in the 3rd constant turnovers can't win footy like that |
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| Author: | cimm1979 [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
grrofunger wrote: complete failure of a game plan bombed long for ages and had 5 contested marks late in the 3rd constant turnovers can't win footy like that Really killed the vibe to the start of the year as well. We shouldn't lose these games if we don't have to. |
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| Author: | Cretylus [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
AGRO wrote: Unfortunately Wayne Hughes and Brett Ratten, haven't left us e renovators delight, this will be full knock down and rebuild. Mick wasted last year, and this year too by the way its panning out.....probably another book launch coming soon. Maybe Swann has some staff changes in the pipeline? I hear Phil Manassa and Micky Gaffer are looking for part time work at the moment |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
AGRO wrote: Unfortunately Wayne Hughes and Brett Ratten, haven't left us e renovators delight, this will be full knock down and rebuild. x 2 |
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| Author: | verbs [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Bluey44 wrote: If we lose to the bummers that's it Time to play the kids everyweek If anyone can do it and be backed up by the board, Its mick If we lose to Essendon* that will be two years running we've lost our first three games. To be top 4 you can expect to lose no more than 6 or 7 at most. Losing the first three means making the 8 is a stretch. |
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| Author: | Clayman [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
We will finish in the bottom 4 to 6 anyway. Gibbs will leave, we will have two top 10 draft picks. The draft will sort it out for us. However we know that first round draft picks don't guarantee success 
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | start the renovation Mick |
Feel like I have gone back 10 years this year has 2003 written all over it I will get concerned if Judd and carrots suddenly announce there retirements How long before we are seeing Mick Malthouses Hall of Shame I think it will start next week |
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| Author: | dane [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | start the renovation Mick |
Wooden spoon eh SB? |
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| Author: | Clayman [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Sydney Blue wrote: I will get concerned if Judd and carrots suddenly announce there retirements Carrots should not be on the list. He shouldn't have received a long term contract at the twilight of his career. It is not like he is a star that every other team wanted. Another stupid contract decision. |
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| Author: | Sydney Blue [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | start the renovation Mick |
dane wrote: Wooden spoon eh SB? Yep |
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| Author: | redback [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
Mick should start with renovating his own structures, game plan and his persona first. Pathetic coaching. Play one on one footy. Play our FF from the square. No more spare man in defence. No more boundary line. No more long kicking to an opposition advantaged defence. Attack through the middle of the ground. Teach them to run and block , not run for a receive all the time. and for god sake practice set shots every day. You are there to teach, so teach them how to shepherd, lead, use the handball as a weapon and for !@#$ sake work out our midfield extractions. Nearly every other team set up their teams to use and work with each other to get a productive clearance. What we do is bomb the ball blindly most of the time because there is no support, no understanding, no cohesion, no talk. Stop acting like an old sook and !@#$% coach. |
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| Author: | Mosquito Fleet [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: start the renovation Mick |
We wipe out the board first before building a new list |
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