The club has stuffed up so much and now we are paying the price for shit coaching appointments,terrible recruiting and trades right across the board , a CEO who clearly hasn't done enough to clear the debt and assist in rebuilding the club and ultimately the most important person at the the club the president who is smart and ballsy enough to drive change to keep the club ahead of the other 17 teams.


With Kernahan gone at the end of the year we can only hope to see a board with a fresh outlook that will turn this club around into a competitive force again.

So where to now. Malthouse surely must realise that this list is clearly not up to it.This should happen whilst he has 2 seasons to go on his contract assuming he isn't sacked before then or doesn't resign.
1 put the pencil through Lucas Watson Warnock Robinson McLean Rowe Bootsma McInnes Armfield White .Clearly not up to it
2 Play kids who are good enough to have long careers and give all players a go. Fast track the development of Graham, Cripps Holman Casboult Menzel and Buckley.Last nights side was so conservative in its selection. Forget about finals. The rebuild should start now
3 play these blokes in these positions
Kreuzer in ruck only and if he doesn't succeed turf him.He can't play anywhere else and he and Warnock can't play in the one side.Surely MM should have known this buy now.Play Casboult as the second ruck man for now

Either Tuohy or Yarran in the middle. We clearly lack pace in the middle as well as penetrating disposal.

Gartlett only as a forward.Ultimately though might get the chop because he isn't strong enough to play in the midfield


Henderson to play down back and keep him there.

Give opportunities for Giles to play at least 4 senior games and promote Reynolds, Johnson,Sheehan and Byrne of the rookie list as opposed to Scotland who has been terrific but clearly only has one year left

5 Our recruiters to pick decent kids who can run and kick and be smart with the footy. With Hughes gone hopefully we can pick better players

6 Don't pick hacks to be rookies like Wood. Don't pick guys who are 33 like Scotland. We haven't looked hard enough in the lower leagues for untried talent in their early 20s. I named half a dozen ruck man who were worth a punt from leagues like the SANFL in the thread that was taken off this site because people don't want to hear the honest truth that we aren't up to it

7 If Gibbs wants to go let him.Last night was typical Gibbsy. Was great in parts but when we had to seal the deal he went MIA. Not good enough from a now senior player. Should have played in the guts fighting tooth and nail to restore the momentum our way. We should have cut our losses 3 years ago and traded him and got some quality picks in the draft.

8 No more stupid trades to get the best. I much rather have Thompson/Kennedy or Dangerfield/Kennedy now than Judd/Armfield. What aboutThompson Kennedy Dangerfield

9 Give the captaincy to someone who is a leader for a decent period. Hendo is the choice as I have said before. Make Simmo his deputy. Murphy provides no leadership on field.The lack of leadership on field has been evident for years so recruiters should look more closely at picking extroverts



There you have it. As I said in the we are the old Collingwood thread I am concerned with the direction MM is taking us and some of his decisions
Thomas. Well I warned people in October. Can't kick. Doesnt do enough. Should give back the majority of the $23000 he earned last night

Getting rid of Laidler Why
Picking Wood. That issue has been addressed hasn't it.

Continuing to play a game style which is old and outdated. We actually look a better team when we use the corridor more than the perimeters of the ground.




It's time for the club to rebuild. If the club doesn't act in this way we will ordinary for a longer time to come

You have missed the big picture completely.

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You were happy with the first qtr though.

The big picture is the culture of the club which is we are too proud a club to realise the mistakes we made and that we must start from scratch again.

The problem Sinners as u and I both know is the board.

Shit flows downstream.

They would be more concerned with the 150 the celebrations.
What I hope is that Malthouse realises that rebuilding must start now otherwise we wil be treading water like we have been for 6 years.

I will take it your just taking the piss

Club needs fumigation.
Sticks doesn't run the club as we know.
Those forces will remain.he has merely provided stability for those forces to hide their antiquated culture behind. He is guilty out being a moron and a selfish one at that.
He says he's Carlton but in fact he is part of a cancer culture.
He hates people who criticise his stupidity.he is happy being a stuffed shirt leading us to oblivion.
I thought we were fifty fifty because we played in Melbourne.were miles of the pace.
Port showed us how much on and off the field we are away grin being a serious club.,not just team!

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Agree that is why the appointment of the new president is the most crucial event in the club's history

Means you are not comprehending what i just said

President shuffle will mean nothing... with the way our club has structured up and the particular strain of culture we have been nurturing...



Cripps Graham and Buckley etc arent the answer.
Wrong types to play ....

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It will mean something if someone who is the right person for the job steps in. The whole board needs changing. The club hasn't taken enough risks at the selection table in the past. Play these guys as much as possible. I have time for all 3. My point sinners is we must now rebuild and find out which youngsters can play the sustained running pressure game that is required now at this level. 2 steps back before we go forward. That has never been this club's philosophy

I was, what of it!

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Who is our saviour synbad

Wont mean anything at all.. you obviously dont understand the dynamics if the club
you know with cuture strains you can have a good one or a bad one.. we have a bad one.
so no matter what grapes you are trying to make wine with the bad wild yeast will make it a bad wine.

Do you understand that bit???

You dont rebuild with kids for the hell of it... playing Buckley Cripps Temay Graham when theyre not even going to be as good in the mix as what we have will not only kill us.. but will finish them off completely.
Right now youre looking at realistically first round picks Bootsma and Lucas and maybe White.Not much there.. id consider Lucas but he must put his body in and do the one %. White might be or not an upgrade of McIness but that wouldnt make an overall difference. Bootsma is similarly placed.. our depth is in areas we dont need.
Cachia... is another example...
Its not in the areas we need... Lucas and Docherty are the only two types that style wise are suited... Lucas not mentally though...but id be prepared to give him 3 or 4 games.Personally i doubt he will make it and have doubted since last year.
Watson aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hes a ship.. no turning circle no pace.... no chance!!!.. but too early to bring in the new tall kid.

Rowe is a fail!

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The only way we will ever know is if the board step down.. Sticks steps away and doesnt interfere.. and positions are open without influence to everybody who wants to run on the board .
Once you have a new board clear of any influences (wont happen) then they can proceed to re structure the club from the ground up....

We dont know who can do it because the current board has shored itself up from outside interest.

Id love to see them all say.. weve had a go.. we want someone else to give it a go and hopefully can add something new.
They wont.

One guy that would be interesting as a president is H Mitchell...but he wont while theyre there.. and maybe he wont.. but i reckon given a clear run at it he would do it ...
He says he wants to be like his 91 year old dad and active now that hes retired.There was a message in that...

Yes im sure they would like him on the board....to use but to be a eunuch... he wouldnt do it like that
Hes far too smart!!!

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I get what you are saying
But I would still play them. There is a fear that playing kids will finish them off. That's unfounded bullshit
Graham has real footy smarts
Cripps is big body who finds the footy
This is Buckley's third year. Play him .at least he can run and has improved

I agree with Cachia.Should have been promoted.
Thing is it's called rebuilding and the club's culture doesn't allow this to happen and it should

And the club's culture has its origin at the board.

The only hope is people outside the club can put a ticket together and challenge the current board

If they were the right people I would become a member again

....and back to 'Sticks - the Grand Illusion' post we go. And every post in between. Sticks himself would be horrified the number of people saying "Gotta be patient re: X - wait till Sticks and Swann have gone".

I get the strong sense that Swann won't see out the year.

Greg Swan needs to implement his brilliant recruitment regime

Maybe look at getting Mick Gaffer, Mick McGuane, Peter Daicos, Twiggy Dunne, Ronnie Wearmouth and Lou Richards at the club

Get Jeanie to give him a blank cheque


its the only way - we must pull out all stops and get the BIG THREE at our club

And Swan is the man to do this

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..hmmmmm.... I'm detecting a bit of sarcasm in this thread .....

Swann is only at the club because this club thinks Swann is the best man for the job.
So ridiculous to blame Swann.
Swann has had people want him out for years..and yet everything is still the same.
This club wants stability.... remember that... (plus has no clue)
Cant blame Swann... he has his pay paid to him by the club.. hes hired and sacked by the club.
Blame the people directing the club.
You dont win chess games by knocking over the pawns... we seem to think you do.
Swann / Sticks / Malthouse are not the powers of this club...
Changing them wont create what we truly need. Maybe were talking about small %es??

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Inconsistent c graders must be moved on...

Changing EVERYONE and EVERYTHING wont create what we truly need either.

I don't think Peter McKenna or Barry Pryce returning to our club, will solve our problems, even though we desperately need these talents.

Swann should at least try - even if Jeanie only give him 20 or 30 million Euro to play with.

If I were Swann I would go after Phil Mannassa to help Wiley out in directing the coaching and development at our once great club.

Maybe Starcevich has returned from Crotia and is available??? At least Swann should call him. (I know Mick Gaffer is tied up with his pub so he is ruled out)

You can still do a lot with 30 million. (less 2 or 3 million for Micks next book launch).

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