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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:34 pm 
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Head of commercial operations at Carlton, Nigel Clark, quits after 13 months

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:22 pm 
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What does a commercial operations manager do at Carlton?

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What does a commercial operations manager do at Carlton?



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While Trigg said on Thursday that Clark's departure has been an amicable one it is understood Clark - who also oversaw the Blues' marketing, sponsorship and events - did not feel suited to the football club environment.

He'd also do product and service development.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:00 am 
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If you're wondering how we compare to the other 17 clubs

Club Comparisons
Revenue

Hawthorn – $70,986,527
Collingwood -$66,259,649
West Coast – $60,007,059
Essendon* – $58,202,992
Carlton – $54,052,486
Fremantle – $52,246,137
Brisbane – $51,015,088
Port Adelaide – $50,794,644
Geelong – $49,652,524
Richmond – $46,706,020
Sydney – $45,559,026
Melbourne – $44,522,144
Adelaide – $44,492,629
W.Bulldogs – $41,321,293
Nth Melbourne – $37,459,111
GWS – $35,824,982
Gold Coast – $34,980,778
St Kilda – $32,605,028

Profit/Loss

West Coast – $5,657,474 (after rent 4.32m, royalties, 2.3m)
Hawthorn – $5,378,426
Fremantle – $1,821,412 (after rent/royalties 5.36m)
Collingwood – $848,076
Melbourne – $562,366
Richmond – $458,586
W.Bulldogs – $388,262
Sydney – $300,397
Port – $211,302
North – $148,852
Gold Coast – ($330,870)
GWS – ($341,349)
Brisbane – ($681,053)
St KIlda – ($847,693)
Essendon* – ($1,136,354)
Adelaide – ($1,288,651) – (after SANFL fee $409k, Adelaide Oval underwrite payment $694k)
Carlton – ($2,718,876)
Geelong – ($3,256,440)

Membership

Collingwood – $22,462,849 (inc Matchday)
West Coast – $19,903,975
Adelaide – $17,328,437
Fremantle – $15,835,972
Sydney – $14,822,409 (inc Matchday)
Geelong – $13,271,798 (inc Gate)
Hawthorn – $11,691,422
Essendon* – $10,828,157
Carlton – $8,651,762
Melbourne – $7,253,885 (inc fundraising)
Gold Coast – $6,596,920 (inc gate)
North – $6,511,612
St Kilda – $6,357,296
Brisbane – $5,850,919 (includes gate)
W.Bulldogs – $5,148,264
GWS – $969,163 (inc merchandise)
Port – not specified

Gate Reciepts & Match Day

Hawthorn – $4,515,057
Melbourne – $3,727,330
Carlton – $2,689,066
North – $1,995,298
Fremantle – $1,867,133
West Coast – $1,777,573
W.Bulldogs – $1,633,911
St Kilda – $1,178,933
Essendon* – $905,628
GWS – not specified
Richmond – not specified
Port Adelaide – not specified

Sponsorship

Collingwood – $17,403,134
Sydney – $16,939,798
Hawthorn – $15,732,142
Essendon* – $15,118,311
Geelong – $13,775,722
Adelaide – $13,628,067
Carlton – $12,063,625
Brisbane – $11,796,071
North – $9,137,733
GWS – $8,565,604
Melbourne – $8,094,174
W.Bulldogs – $8,078,939
West Coast – $7,448,375
Gold Coast – $7,457,992
Fremantle – $5,342,755
St Kilda – $5,186,227
Port Adelaide – not specified

AFL Income

GWS – $22,835,743 (inc Match reciepts)
Gold Coast – $18,603113
St Kilda – $16,245,840
Brisbane – $15,474,641 (Net)
North – $13,500,840
W.Bulldogs – $13,370,840
Sydney – $12,375,430
Melbourne – $12,231,103
Hawthorn – $10,415,840
Carlton – $9,938,232
Adelaide – $9,828,340
Fremantle – $9,795,840
Essendon* – $9,090,840
West Coast – $9,090,840
Geelong – $8,790,840
Collingwood – $8,590,848
Port – not specified

Gaming, Social Club etc

Hawthorn – $18,358,614
Carlton – $18,098,704
Collingwood – $17,107,294
Brisbane – $15,797,708
Essendon* – $13,586,904
Geelong – $10,886,285
Port – $7,600,918
W.Bulldogs – $6,157,257
St Kilda – $2,098,039

Merchandise

Hawthorn – $4,691,941
Fremantle – $2,897,696
Essendon* – $2,551,636
West Coast – $2,428,442
Geelong – $1,721,752
North – $1,421,461
Adelaide – $1,320,897
Brisbane – $1,229,832
W.Bulldogs – $1,112,309
Carlton – $1,033,097
Melbourne – $861,523
Sydney – $553,393
Gold Coast – $549,458
St Kilda – $402,854

Football Department

Fremantle – $23,814,111
GWS – $23,254,944
Sydney – $23,244,373 (Academy is another $941,623)
Essendon* – $23,030,232
Collingwood -$22,525,079
West Coast – $22,434,303
Port – $22,355,954
Carlton – $22,525,287
Geelong – $22,239,421
North – $21,842,042
Brisbane – $21,515,160
Melbourne – $21,292,206
W.Bulldogs – $21,272,339
St KIlda – $19,598,817

AFL Equalisation charges

Collingwood – $1,386,640
Hawthorn – $1,349,107
Adelaide – $792,967
Geelong – $$300,000
Essendon* – $270,000
Carlton – $230,000

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:54 am 
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Thank goodness for gaming, hey. Great work.

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Something something norf gifted Hobart corrupt AFL why are we paying equalization etcetc

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:52 am 
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* Carlton 2016 Annual Report


Comparisons

Consolidated Profit/Loss

Hawthorn – $4,660,824
Geelong – $2,255,116
St Kilda – $1,107,311
Melbourne – $720,218
North Melbourne – $83,039
Richmond – ($80,257)
Carlton ($769,265)
Brisbane – ($1,783,506)
Collingwood – ($2,622,623)
Essendon* – ($9,825,37)

Revenue

Collingwood – $71,475,457
Hawthorn – $69,779,234
Geelong – $54,650,813
Carlton – $ 54,390,069
Essendon* – $53,499, 545
Brisbane – $48,707,494
Western Bulldogs – $48,400,000 (statement only)
Melbourne – $47,552,639
Richmond – $47,538,233
St Kilda – $39,928,568
North Melbourne – $38,548,700

Revenue without Pokies/Hospitality

Hawthorn – $51,440,437
Collingwood – $49,819,159
Geelong – $45,590,438
Richmond – $40,320,387
Essendon* – $39,959,539
North Melbourne – $38,000,000 (statement only)
Carlton – $36,440,868
Melbourne – $35,359,354
Brisbane – $33,514,529
St Kilda – $37,859,436

AFL Revenue

St Kilda – $17,125,673 (shown as AFL distributions and “other” income)
Brisbane – $16,753,407
North Melbourne – $13,803,488
Melbourne – $12,758,742
Richmond – $10,478,488
Carlton – $ 10,238,834
Essendon* – $9,824,470
Hawthorn – $9,788,488
Geelong – $9,512,533
Collingwood – $8,888,484

Membership Revenue

Collingwood – $22,565,759 (includes matchday)
Geelong – $14,341,800 (includes gate reciepts)
Hawthorn – $12,422,423
Essendon* – $10,100,110
Carlton – $ 8,618,194
North Melbourne – $7,263,161
Melbourne – $7,578,057 (includes fundraising)
St Kilda – $6,646,174/38,101
Brisbane – $5,602,557 (includes Gate reciepts)

Membership Revenue per Member

Geelong – $274.77 (includes gate reciepts)
Brisbane – $240.59 (includes gate reciepts)
Melbourne – $193.58 (includes fundraising)
Essendon* – $175.67
st Kilda – $174.44
Hawthorn – $164.86

Sponsorship Revenue

Collingwood – $17,024,436
Geelong – $16,079,494 (includes fundraising)
Hawthorn – $14,947,662
Essendon* – $12 ,493 ,197
Richmond – $10,575,059
Brisbane – $9,599,634
Melbourne – $8,916,023
North Melbourne – $8,559,657
St Kilda – $5,838,157

Pokies and Hospitality Revenue

Collingwood – $21,656,298
Hawthorn – $18,338,797
Carlton – $ 17,949,201
Brisbane – $15,192,965
Essendon* – $13,540,006
Melbourne – $12,193,285
Geelong – $9,060,375
Richmond – $7,217,846
St Kilda – $2,069,132

Pokies and Hospitality Profit

Collingwood – $5,501,431
Brisbane – $4,207,183
Melbourne – $3,620,569
Carlton – $2,760,309
Essendon* – $2,456,768

Gate Reciepts and Match Returns

Melbourne – $4,592,047
Hawthorn – $4,372,640
North Melbourne – $2,265,583
Carlton – $ 1,909,420
St Kilda – $1,623,290
Essendon* – $216 , 850

Merchandise

Hawthorn – $4,020,932
Essendon* – $2,268,964
North Melbourne – $1,764,335
Geelong – $1,742,436
Carlton – $ 1,093,580
Melbourne – $986,269
Brisbane – $817,849
St Kilda – $791,796

Football Department Spend

Geelong – $23,172,565
Essendon* – $22,981,249
Collingwood – $22,959,708
Richmond – $22,794,109
North Melbourne – $22,337,950
Brisbane – $22,236,384
Melbourne – $21,927,456
Carlton – $ 21,598,464
St Kilda – $20,724,493
Hawthorn – Not completely defined.

AFL Equalisation Levy

Collingwood – $1,405,904
Hawthorn – $1,301,588
Geelong – $390,000
Essendon* – $350,004

Assets

Hawthorn – $62,414,117
Collingwood – $52,857,370
Essendon* – $47, 817, 356
Geelong – $35,036,809
Richmond – $29,521,323
Carlton – $24,691,073
Melbourne – $17,484,015
North Melbourne – $15,911,962
St Kilda – $14,160,615
Brisbane – $8,195,809

Liabilities

Geelong – $25,105,827
Hawthorn – $20,814,863
Essendon* – $20,363,757
Brisbane – $19,067,673
Collingwood – $17,546,328
Carlton – $16,550,678
St Kilda – $14,795,190
Melbourne – $12,644,379
North Melbourne – $6,164,116
Richmond – $5,430,252

Equity

Hawthorn – $41,559,254
Collingwood – $35,311,042
Essendon* – $27,453 , 599
Richmond – $24,091,071
Geelong – $9,930,982
North Melbourne – $9,747,846
Carlton – $8,140,395
Melbourne – $4,839,636
St Kilda – ($634,575)
Brisbane – ($10,871,864)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:11 pm 
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* Carlton 2016 Annual Report


Comparisons

Consolidated Profit/Loss

Hawthorn – $4,660,824
Geelong – $2,255,116
St Kilda – $1,107,311
Melbourne – $720,218
North Melbourne – $83,039
Richmond – ($80,257)
Carlton ($769,265)
Brisbane – ($1,783,506)
Collingwood – ($2,622,623)
Essendon** – ($9,825,37)

Revenue

Collingwood – $71,475,457
Hawthorn – $69,779,234
Geelong – $54,650,813
Carlton – $ 54,390,069
Essendon** – $53,499, 545
Brisbane – $48,707,494
Western Bulldogs – $48,400,000 (statement only)
Melbourne – $47,552,639
Richmond – $47,538,233
St Kilda – $39,928,568
North Melbourne – $38,548,700

Revenue without Pokies/Hospitality

Hawthorn – $51,440,437
Collingwood – $49,819,159
Geelong – $45,590,438
Richmond – $40,320,387
Essendon** – $39,959,539
North Melbourne – $38,000,000 (statement only)
Carlton – $36,440,868
Melbourne – $35,359,354
Brisbane – $33,514,529
St Kilda – $37,859,436

AFL Revenue

St Kilda – $17,125,673 (shown as AFL distributions and “other” income)
Brisbane – $16,753,407
North Melbourne – $13,803,488
Melbourne – $12,758,742
Richmond – $10,478,488
Carlton – $ 10,238,834
Essendon** – $9,824,470
Hawthorn – $9,788,488
Geelong – $9,512,533
Collingwood – $8,888,484

Membership Revenue

Collingwood – $22,565,759 (includes matchday)
Geelong – $14,341,800 (includes gate reciepts)
Hawthorn – $12,422,423
Essendon** – $10,100,110
Carlton – $ 8,618,194
North Melbourne – $7,263,161
Melbourne – $7,578,057 (includes fundraising)
St Kilda – $6,646,174/38,101
Brisbane – $5,602,557 (includes Gate reciepts)

Membership Revenue per Member

Geelong – $274.77 (includes gate reciepts)
Brisbane – $240.59 (includes gate reciepts)
Melbourne – $193.58 (includes fundraising)
Essendon** – $175.67
st Kilda – $174.44
Hawthorn – $164.86

Sponsorship Revenue

Collingwood – $17,024,436
Geelong – $16,079,494 (includes fundraising)
Hawthorn – $14,947,662
Essendon** – $12 ,493 ,197
Richmond – $10,575,059
Brisbane – $9,599,634
Melbourne – $8,916,023
North Melbourne – $8,559,657
St Kilda – $5,838,157

Pokies and Hospitality Revenue

Collingwood – $21,656,298
Hawthorn – $18,338,797
Carlton – $ 17,949,201
Brisbane – $15,192,965
Essendon** – $13,540,006
Melbourne – $12,193,285
Geelong – $9,060,375
Richmond – $7,217,846
St Kilda – $2,069,132

Pokies and Hospitality Profit

Collingwood – $5,501,431
Brisbane – $4,207,183
Melbourne – $3,620,569
Carlton – $2,760,309
Essendon** – $2,456,768

Gate Reciepts and Match Returns

Melbourne – $4,592,047
Hawthorn – $4,372,640
North Melbourne – $2,265,583
Carlton – $ 1,909,420
St Kilda – $1,623,290
Essendon** – $216 , 850

Merchandise

Hawthorn – $4,020,932
Essendon** – $2,268,964
North Melbourne – $1,764,335
Geelong – $1,742,436
Carlton – $ 1,093,580
Melbourne – $986,269
Brisbane – $817,849
St Kilda – $791,796

Football Department Spend

Geelong – $23,172,565
Essendon** – $22,981,249
Collingwood – $22,959,708
Richmond – $22,794,109
North Melbourne – $22,337,950
Brisbane – $22,236,384
Melbourne – $21,927,456
Carlton – $ 21,598,464
St Kilda – $20,724,493
Hawthorn – Not completely defined.

AFL Equalisation Levy

Collingwood – $1,405,904
Hawthorn – $1,301,588
Geelong – $390,000
Essendon** – $350,004

Assets

Hawthorn – $62,414,117
Collingwood – $52,857,370
Essendon** – $47, 817, 356
Geelong – $35,036,809
Richmond – $29,521,323
Carlton – $24,691,073
Melbourne – $17,484,015
North Melbourne – $15,911,962
St Kilda – $14,160,615
Brisbane – $8,195,809

Liabilities

Geelong – $25,105,827
Hawthorn – $20,814,863
Essendon** – $20,363,757
Brisbane – $19,067,673
Collingwood – $17,546,328
Carlton – $16,550,678
St Kilda – $14,795,190
Melbourne – $12,644,379
North Melbourne – $6,164,116
Richmond – $5,430,252

Equity

Hawthorn – $41,559,254
Collingwood – $35,311,042
Essendon** – $27,453 , 599
Richmond – $24,091,071
Geelong – $9,930,982
North Melbourne – $9,747,846
Carlton – $8,140,395
Melbourne – $4,839,636
St Kilda – ($634,575)
Brisbane – ($10,871,864)


these numbers show we are in strife and there is no plan by the Board

there is no list of an accumulated debt position of each club


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:15 pm 
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Point 7. Annual Report

Future Developments Disclosure of information regarding likely developments in the operations of the Club in future financial years and the expected results of those operations is likely to result in unreasonable prejudice to the Club. Accordingly, this information has not been disclosed in this Report.

what does this mean?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:17 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Point 7. Annual Report

Future Developments Disclosure of information regarding likely developments in the operations of the Club in future financial years and the expected results of those operations is likely to result in unreasonable prejudice to the Club. Accordingly, this information has not been disclosed in this Report.

what does this mean?


it means they operate on a need to know basis

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:04 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Point 7. Annual Report

Future Developments Disclosure of information regarding likely developments in the operations of the Club in future financial years and the expected results of those operations is likely to result in unreasonable prejudice to the Club. Accordingly, this information has not been disclosed in this Report.

what does this mean?


it means they operate on a need to know basis


of course, the billionaires think that - but what are the facts that are not disclosed resulting in unreasonable prejudice to the Club?

does pratt provide the personal guarantee above the 5 million debt ceiling?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:36 am 
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excellent

so our debt position is last line above under Loans?

5 mill plus 276,389 plus 1,230, 713?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:42 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
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so our debt position is last line above under Loans?

5 mill plus 276,389 plus 1,230, 713?


More or less. The 5 million is the fully utilised loan guaranteed by the AFL. the 276k is money owed to the gambling regulator, and the 1.2 million is money owed for the purchase of gaming machines.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:12 am 
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equity of the club is in serious decline - from the high point of $13.389 mill in 2011 to $8.14m this year - 40%

revenue $57mill in 2013 to $54 mill to 2016

the club is not growing and is in fact contracting and declining

says to me the Board have no ideas - no plans to grow and in fact not executed any plan to grow


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What's your conclusion on why revenue has declined? Besides blaming the board that is....

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:02 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
What's your conclusion on why revenue has declined? Besides blaming the board that is....


Its only the board
You need passion drive smarts ideas and execution
If you look at equity on present trends carlton could be worthless in 5 years


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:25 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
What's your conclusion on why revenue has declined? Besides blaming the board that is....


Well its pretty easy to see where the drop off is

- pokie revenues down more than a million
- sponsorship down more than a million
- gate down more than a million

2 of these can be linked to our teams form and ladder position.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:20 pm 
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The_Wookie wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
What's your conclusion on why revenue has declined? Besides blaming the board that is....


Well its pretty easy to see where the drop off is

- pokie revenues down more than a million
- sponsorship down more than a million
- gate down more than a million

2 of these can be linked to our teams form and ladder position.


carlton is like a small satellite just drifting around in a low level orbit above the earth

what we need is someone and some group to lift the club out of this drifting orbit - a big boost of ideas, money and people to make us relevant again when we were always in the news everyday and a media throng always turned up at AGM's . Carlton used to pack out Melbourne Town Hall for AGM'S in the old days...

the 3 financial issues above suggested by Wookie are just indicators not causes of a larger problem


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