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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:07 pm 
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BILLIONAIRE Carlton powerbroker Bruce Mathieson has again scorched his club’s recruiting, declaring it the worst in the AFL.

A day after Carlton’s 33-point capitulation to Port Adelaide, the poker machine king said he’d rather watch the Gold Coast Suns than his beloved Blues in their current state.

“Our recruiting in the last eight to 10 years has just been appalling - the worst by any club by far,” Mathieson said.

“Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt. It is just an embarrassment.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:14 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:15 pm 
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Well you have had 10 years influence at Board level, what have you done about it Bruce?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:33 pm 
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Thats exactly the point.
ruce isnt looking at those who do the hiring and the firing.. the board etc

its the recruiting group....

its like the collingwood argument.. who hired them is who the spotlight should be on not them.

nobody wakes up in the morning to draft lucas bootsma watson etc etc etc.. to be them

when theyre drafted were hoping someone else gets them that we have and we get the good versions that someone else got.

what mathieson should be doing if we were a fair and honest with our supporters club is have a full indie internal review covering everything and everyone..

then he would be right...

but that might also point to outside interference from certain familes

geez this club is [REDACTED]!!!

scapegoats everywhere..from the people who have created this mess..!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:37 pm 
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who knows if it's the recruiters or the coaches?
maybe these kids would have been top players at other clubs?
surely you can only surmise where the fault lies and try to fix it.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:41 pm 
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..I can think of a few players on our list that would be widely recognised as elite if they went into the cats or swans or hawks systems..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:46 pm 
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remember when kreuzer started, he never missed a goal.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:51 pm 
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bruce needs to face the carlton machine is no good..swann ... mm..the recruiters dont pay themselves
they dont interview themselves
they are not the people charged with setting course for this club

look there bruce.. look there.....

start with a fair dinkum internal review of the club

if you think we hav ebeen shocking for eight years ... we allowed them to be shocking for eight

and then maybe they were excellent choices but we didnt have a follow up

maybe this club is totally clueless all over the place

do yourself a favour... have the review

you might just learn something

its as big a mystery as the MAS jet disappearance...
what happens at the Carlton footy club

theyre supposed to be out there looking for it... why dont you look for what happened to us??

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:57 pm 
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indeed. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:04 pm 
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Maybe Bruce will add SOS onto his payroll once he is announced as the blues head of list management end of this year.

With Clubs already working on poaching some GWS talent they have amassed some people at our club believe we hold the biggest ace up our sleeve..... GWS's list manager and Carlton premiership player and club champion Stephen Silvagni.

Sticks and bear are trying to make it happen.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:13 pm 
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And again the focus will be on a quick fix. 'get the giants kids.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:14 pm 
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And again the focus will be on a quick fix. 'get the giants kids.


17 other clubs are trying to get the GWS kids


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:32 pm 
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What has killed us where we are now is our diabolical recruiting in the 09-11 drafts.

Our picks from 60 or below between 2009 and 2011 are what has destroyed us: Lucas, Davies, Kerr, Watson, McCarthy, Mitchell, Bootsma and Rowe

Now in that same period we did much better from below 60 or in rookie drafts, I mean Casboult and White are no superstars, but offer a more than any of those draft picks!

Actually our drafting in general outside of picks in the top 6 has been awful.

Its why we have this unbalanced side which drops off dramatically talent wise after the first 12 or so. Its also why I think we rush players back from injury or play them injured, as their replacements would leave us uncompetitive. In the process we have shortened Judd's career, and have an injury riddled Kreuze and Murph as well.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:23 am 
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Our recruiting and our development have both been shit. This is no secret to any of us.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:55 am 
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Doesn't mince words Bruce. We are worst !!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlto ... 6857436159

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:27 am 
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murraycray wrote:
Doesn't mince words Bruce. We are worst !!

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlto ... 6857436159


Surely we're 2nd worst...what about Dees ?

Sticks should have gone years ago. A caretaker as a long term Pres. Oh dear.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:39 am 
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The recruiting has been the worst over the past 10 years.

But how many years did WH head up the recruiting dept???

6-8?

Why wasnt he removed earlier.

Again its that board. Jeannie, Bruce flower off the lot of you


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:51 am 
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He has been saying this for a while and has a point.

We have neglected our key positions and tried to solve that in one draft.... the 2010 draft, which has proven a pretty poor draft.

Journalists know they will get a comment from him when things are not going well.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:15 am 
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Seems a re-hash of an article from Ratten's last year. Or was it last year? I forget but I'm sure I've read these words before.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:17 am 
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No I think it was last year.................. actually you are right, it could have been last year

teknodeejay wrote:
Seems a re-hash of an article from Ratten's last year. Or was it last year? I forget but I'm sure I've read these words before.


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