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MM has this year and next year. I hope we're already thinking about succession planning. MM is not young and his wife has been unwell which may cause him to opt our after 2015.

So who to replace him?

This may be controversial but I would have Ratten back. I think he would be learning a lot at the Hawks and would come back wiser, still passionate but and hardened, and hopefully with a better list than he had.

malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave

i agree with doc
malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ...

unless we bomb

but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while.

Synbad wrote:

Cough ... Splutter ... The myth continues.

I hope Darth Vader has a exceptional year. Go Blues.

..not just hird, Voss too,, could even argue Buckley situation..

Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

..not just hird, Voss too,, could even argue Buckley situation..

Ratten... Which just goes to illustrate how much footy clubs improve still

BigBlueWave wrote:

Synbad wrote:

Cough ... Splutter ... The myth continues.

I hope Darth Vader has a exceptional year. Go Blues.

'''whats the myth? he hasnt created competive sides and sides that t ake a tilt at flags?

his his record in the last 25 years... and 25 years is a pretty good refkection .. as there are no flukes over 25 year span... suggests... that he does have enormous succeess ..

actually his record over those 25 years is much better than ours...
his record this century murders ours....

not sure whats a myth,,,

Author:	TomAlvin'sWig [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:33 am ]
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MM has this year and next year. I hope we're already thinking about succession planning. MM is not young and his wife has been unwell which may cause him to opt our after 2015. So who to replace him? This may be controversial but I would have Ratten back. I think he would be learning a lot at the Hawks and would come back wiser, still passionate but and hardened, and hopefully with a better list than he had.

Author:	DocSherrin III [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:38 am ]
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TomAlvin'sWig wrote: MM has this year and next year. I hope we're already thinking about succession planning. MM is not young and his wife has been unwell which may cause him to opt our after 2015. So who to replace him? This may be controversial but I would have Ratten back. I think he would be learning a lot at the Hawks and would come back wiser, still passionate but and hardened, and hopefully with a better list than he had. I think Ratts proved to all and sundry that he's not senior coaching material. Very good assistant coach though...always was. No shame in being a good 2IC. As for Life after Malthouse...I can't help but think this is 6 years away. Little reason to think otherwise.

Author:	camel [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:46 am ]
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Don't you have to win a flag or two before you can be welcomed back to coach the Blues?

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:48 am ]
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malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave i agree with doc malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ... unless we bomb but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while.

Author:	Big Kahuna Boot [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:02 pm ]
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..agreed, the lure of giving the blues a flag after all these years will keep him here, as well as being the first coach to win it with 3 different teams..

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Author:	BigBlueWave [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:10 pm ]
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Synbad wrote: malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave i agree with doc malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ... unless we bomb but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while. Cough ... Splutter ... The myth continues. I hope Darth Vader has a exceptional year. Go Blues.

Author:	Punter22 [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:38 pm ]
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Synbad wrote: malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave i agree with doc malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ... unless we bomb but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while. co-sgn. Also, he mentioned during an interview on the weekend that he is already thinking beyond the current contract and would coach on if the club wanted him to. Which of course it will, unless it goes completely tits up. His comment re; coaching was intriguing, actually. He basically acknowledged that the window had more or less closed, and the recruitment of Docherty, Everitt, Thomas etc was very much geared around providing support to Murph, Gibbs etc to bring through a new batch of kids and maintaining a high level of competitiveness in the medium term once the likes of Judd, Carrots, Waite etc retire. he certainly didn't say that they weren't planning/striving for success now, but it was a very honest appraisal of the list and what the planning was during the trade/draft periods.

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:56 pm ]
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BigBlueWave wrote: Synbad wrote: malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave i agree with doc malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ... unless we bomb but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while. Cough ... Splutter ... The myth continues. I hope Darth Vader has a exceptional year. Go Blues. '''whats the myth? he hasnt created competive sides and sides that t ake a tilt at flags? his his record in the last 25 years... and 25 years is a pretty good refkection .. as there are no flukes over 25 year span... suggests... that he does have enormous succeess .. actually his record over those 25 years is much better than ours... his record this century murders ours.... not sure whats a myth,,,

Author:	TomAlvin'sWig [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:58 pm ]
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Interesting to read your perspectives. I'd be more than happy for MM to continue if he periodically got in new assistants to get in fresh ideas, like he has this year. There is a Hollywood romantic in me dreaming Ratts might return to win us no.17

Author:	ThePsychologist [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:35 pm ]
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Mick will be here for a fair few years yet. I also don't believe in succession planning, rarely works. When it is time for Mick to move on we look around and get the best coach for us at that time.

Author:	Effes [ Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:26 pm ]
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Interesting comments from Clarkson on coaching appointments ''The game doesn't protect itself from over-zealous board members,'' Clarkson added, ''who become fixated on the idea of a club legend or a star player becoming their coach with no experience.'' Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/g ... z2tZsYgxTH

Author:	Synbad [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:39 am ]
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Clarkson is right. th circle of trust brought down Essendon* The president was lifelong mates with the coach dr etc The coach was an AFL golden child and no way wiuld he go down the road of mathew knights if he can be sheedy.. so the drugs were must..coaching prahran under 10s isnt an ideal grooming. the dr and the board didnt want to go against anyone .. too matesy the footy dept were ex players blokes in the media if u are surrounded by yes men .. you can make mistakes bcause nobody will be there to debate u we have a similar set up

Author:	Big Kahuna Boot [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:25 am ]
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..not just hird, Voss too,, could even argue Buckley situation..

Author:	Synbad [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:30 am ]
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote: ..not just hird, Voss too,, could even argue Buckley situation.. Ratten... Which just goes to illustrate how much footy clubs improve still

Author:	Blue Vain [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:26 am ]
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Mick changed his game based philosophies last year and he will have to continue to do so to succeed. The idea of pushing an extra player up to the stoppages and then kicking to where the opposition have the numbers will fall further away in 2014. Teams are becoming more proficient at containing and moving the ball where the numerical advantage exists. We'll be torn apart if we continue to give the ball back to them. Mick may be highly rated by some but our board has shown a willingness to throw anyone under the bus to save their own skins. I hep for Micks sake he can continue to adapt and eventually succeed because there won't be a lot of margin for error.

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Author:	Sydney Blue [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:23 am ]
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I nearly found new found admiration for Clarkson reading that but then I remembered who he is Sniper from way back and it wasn't long ago he got barred from attended kids games for abuse he is right in what he is saying sort of -some ex-greats have gone on to be brilliant coaches Its the person not necessary the player that makes a good coach and it is the administration that provides the environment for a coach to succeed

Author:	Big Kahuna Boot [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:25 am ]
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Synbad wrote: Big Kahuna Boot wrote: ..not just hird, Voss too,, could even argue Buckley situation.. Ratten... Which just goes to illustrate how much footy clubs improve still ..rats did do a year as an assistant, and a full-time one at that, the others just walked right into their job with no experience in any afl coaching..

Author:	BigBlueWave [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:27 am ]
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Synbad wrote: BigBlueWave wrote: Synbad wrote: malthouse will bring some very competitive results .. and if he does.. hes there for life... well not till he drops dead... but till he decides to leave i agree with doc malthouse isnt here for 2 more years... hes here for as long as he wants the job ... unless we bomb but... he has a great career in making average teams competitive .. so if he does what his history suggests hes here for a while. Cough ... Splutter ... The myth continues. I hope Darth Vader has a exceptional year. Go Blues. '''whats the myth? he hasnt created competive sides and sides that t ake a tilt at flags? his his record in the last 25 years... and 25 years is a pretty good refkection .. as there are no flukes over 25 year span... suggests... that he does have enormous succeess .. actually his record over those 25 years is much better than ours... his record this century murders ours.... not sure whats a myth,,, Haha .. I absolutely question his record (and Carltons for that matter). For someone who has coached for 28 years with the talent he has had at his disposal, Darth Vader has been ordinary at best. I really think you would have done a better job Synbad. Just imagine what Clarkson would have done after 28 years. As I said ... The Myth continues.

Author:	Lace Out [ Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:41 am ]
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I have to agree with those that suggest he will be here a while yet. He might be old but is very fit and fiercely determined. One thing I have noticed is that MM has brought in big bodies through his 1st active draft. It has done my head in over the last few years seeing all the midgets we have drafted. I think it is fair to say Mick will be given the chance to build his own team, and given more than two drafts to do so.

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:36 am ]
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The one thing that bothered me in the Kangaroos game, was the bombing long to no-one in particular or more importantly to the North spare man in our forward line on more than one occassion. Lets just say I was hoping that would not be as evident.