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 Post subject: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:36 am 
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And don't anyone tear down this post or merge it with another thread

Time will show Malthouse is worth every cent we pay him

This group of players are not by any means perfect but after just 12 games he has them busting their gut week in week out, he has instilled a dedication to give maximum effort ... and as a result we know with surety we are just 2-3 goals off the pace

And those who don't comform to the benchmark efforts and rules and expectations, regardless of your reputation you will be sidelined - make no mistake because this is about discipline and dedication and 'bare minimum standards'

First Laidler and Duigan then Waite and now Yarran and White and I don't care how good your first ten games were Jeff if you continue to let fear dominate your game you'll no doubt be next

Malthouse is sorting out the boys from the men and the girls from the boys

He is setting ground rules and in effect establishing the culture needed to one day be as clinical and professional as Sydney and Hawthorn etc

He speaks in clear, direct terms. He doesn't mince words. He speaks of a man whose been at the coal face for 30+ years as coach and has not just seen it all but has also proven he is an old dog who can learn new tricks

He understands too well it is a process because the process and time is needed to make this team Great again

He knows the ladder is at once misleading and a true reflection. Misleading because we are better than our ladder position says we are but true because at the end of the day, in practical terms we haven't won enough games...thus far ... He sees both the abstract and the reality

He knows the umpires killed us last night and he is prepared to use his high standing in the game to make a stern statement about this. He's standing up for our club!

The man, in my view hasn't said a wrong word in a presses or post match all year. He's been on the money the entire way.

He has improved individuals and the team in just 12 real games.

And the great thing is, he looks like he's just starting to get warmed up. It's time to knuckle down, pull the sleeves up, elbow to the grindstone or whatever the @#$%&! it is.

He knows what needs to be done.

Watch carefully. Just like at Collingwood he will simultaneously turn the list into a well drilled, hard nosed, dedicated unit, all the while bringing young men into the team. Before you know it he will bring in the new wave (Bootsma, Cachia and Levi now, soon Menzel, and my guess is Graham and Bucks Jnr shorlty, plus McCinnes).

He's a genius.

He has a challenge on his plate no doubt, but he wouldnt have it any other way now doubt. Something about climbing the mountain, the process.

He will be buoyed by Gibbs' great effort last night.

He will be driven by the need to turn Jeff and Yazz into men.

He knows Lucas has improved and is giving us great run but also needs to toughen up, but he knows now is not the time to bust the lads chops!

He is putting it together, assembling it. Bit by bit. Game by game.

When he said last week "we'll get THERE", strike me if he didnt say this with pure honesty. He knows where we are at. He knows it's within striking distance but some changes are needed to the list and to the culture, and he is making those changes in front of our very eyes.

Anyone who can't see this is @#$%&! blind.


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 Post subject: Trust Malthouse
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Great post


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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I rarely post....but completely agree. I have come to accept that this season really is about the process. Once you make peace with this concept, then sit back and enjoy the ride. Really looking forward to 2014.

Go Blues.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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Kameraman wrote:
I rarely post....but completely agree. I have come to accept that this season really is about the process. Once you make peace with this concept, then sit back and enjoy the ride. Really looking forward to 2014.

Go Blues.


very well put Kamer :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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Great post mate. Agree 100%

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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Malthouse wasn't hired to rebuild the list.

Club thought they were ready to challenge and needed someone who could take it a further step.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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Captain Dan wrote:
Malthouse wasn't hired to rebuild the list.

Club thought they were ready to challenge and needed someone who could take it a further step.

Ah yes.. but the club is not too bright..... is it???.... and Malthouse is more of a realist than they ever are.

so glad to have a realist and someone who understands more about some kind of process than the club ever did.

Because of Malthouse .. even our recruiting will improve...
List management will become more strategic.
Players more disciplined.

Club overall will be more AFL ready...

We were a mess!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:30 am 
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Do you believe all this crap Sugarcane? :lol:
This is same bloke who hasnt openly said all players are not equal. Lesser lights are treated differently to star players.
And spare me the "pure honestly" crap.
This is the same bloke who blatantly lied about the Stephen Milne incident and was forced to apologise for trying to worm his way out of an incident instead of taking responsibility for his actions.

Yes Mick is doing a good job, yes Mick deserves some patience and support but spare me the Mother Teresa sermon.
Some of you people need to get a grasp of reality. Malthouse is a successful coach of years gone by and hopefully he can bring some success to Carlton but he has plenty of frailties as well.

If you're expecting something other than a footy football coach in his latter years of career you're going to be very disappointed because thats the reality.
He isnt the panacea sent to save our club. He is a small part of the puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:36 am 
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Awesome post. I've not been disappointed with anything other than selection. And even then - his selection errors probably help player development and help him sort the list.

So I agree - he's really on the right track.

PS: watch Menzel. You will be loving him soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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You have to be disappointed with the win loss ratio. Six losses halfway through the season is mediocre, bordering on terrible, which it will be if we lose the next two, possibly three games.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:42 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Do you believe all this crap Sugarcane? :lol:
This is same bloke who hasnt openly said all players are not equal. Lesser lights are treated differently to star players.
And spare me the "pure honestly" crap.
This is the same bloke who blatantly lied about the Stephen Milne incident and was forced to apologise for trying to worm his way out of an incident instead of taking responsibility for his actions.

Yes Mick is doing a good job, yes Mick deserves some patience and support but spare me the Mother Teresa sermon.
Some of you people need to get a grasp of reality. Malthouse is a successful coach of years gone by and hopefully he can bring some success to Carlton but he has plenty of frailties as well.

If you're expecting something other than a footy football coach in his latter years of career you're going to be very disappointed because thats the reality.
He isnt the panacea sent to save our club. He is a small part of the puzzle.



BV... i dont mind that he lied about milne.. and im gad hes at the club as he understands footy better than anyone else we have around the club.

and yes he is a small part of the puzzle...

im hoping a very large piece is removed pretty soon....and replaced by a piece that fits going forward... :wink:

Then hopefully other pieces fall into place..... and we get some real forward momentum

But yeah... hes definitely an upgrade ... and alot of things are shaped better with mick around

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:19 am 
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Yep, I agree about him understanding footy. Whether its the type of contemporary thinking we need is yet to be determined.
Hopefully we'll see sustained improvements amongst the playing group and around the club in general.
The club has taken a big gamble IMO. I hope for the players, club and supporters sake it is a successful decision.

Mind you, IMO fictional nonsense like the original post here adds little to the debate.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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at the beginning of the year I had low expectations and thought that this year was going to be all about Mick finding out about the list and them finding out about Mick. I still think that, but losing to Richmond, Essendon*, Collingwood, Essendon*, Geelong, Essendon*, Hawthorn, Essendon*, St Kilda and Essendon* in the first 12 weeks really hurts.

Oh, and did I mention losing to Essendon* really hurt? Thought not.

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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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Blue Vain wrote:
Yep, I agree about him understanding footy. Whether its the type of contemporary thinking we need is yet to be determined.
Hopefully we'll see sustained improvements amongst the playing group and around the club in general.
The club has taken a big gamble IMO. I hope for the players, club and supporters sake it is a successful decision.

Mind you, IMO fictional nonsense like the original post here adds little to the debate.


What's the big gamble you are referring to? Getting rid or Ratts and bringing in MM? That sounds lika a pretty safe bet to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:47 am 
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Captain Dan wrote:
Malthouse wasn't hired to rebuild the list.

Club thought they were ready to challenge and needed someone who could take it a further step.

Why, because rats told them so, he had a fair few on here fooled as well. Even I and some fellow supporters down here in tassie are not that delusional.We can see the change and actually are enjoying it even if the losses are painful at times.

And as for the amount of money he is on,he will actually save us money this year alone,by not signing duds on 2 year contracts who are not worth a pinch of shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:56 am 
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There is no doubt he can coach. He can also make mistakes. He is pretty good at covering his own ar5e and deflecting.

What was with complaining about the umps in the media?? Is this what we have become??? He came across as a flower in those pressers. Not sure why seeing our club represented that way made some feel good.

More victim stuff.

Some of our players have responded well to Mick. Others not so.

Nobody is comparing him to Ratts. He is a better coach than Ratts. Some of us just want him to be judged the same way Ratts in the interest of fairness is all.

Ok from now on I am going to try be positive about the man. Hope he makes it easy for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:41 am 
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Sugarcane wrote:
And don't anyone tear down this post or merge it with another thread

Time will show Malthouse is worth every cent we pay him

This group of players are not by any means perfect but after just 12 games he has them busting their gut week in week out, he has instilled a dedication to give maximum effort ... and as a result we know with surety we are just 2-3 goals off the pace

And those who don't comform to the benchmark efforts and rules and expectations, regardless of your reputation you will be sidelined - make no mistake because this is about discipline and dedication and 'bare minimum standards'

First Laidler and Duigan then Waite and now Yarran and White and I don't care how good your first ten games were Jeff if you continue to let fear dominate your game you'll no doubt be next

Malthouse is sorting out the boys from the men and the girls from the boys

He is setting ground rules and in effect establishing the culture needed to one day be as clinical and professional as Sydney and Hawthorn etc

He speaks in clear, direct terms. He doesn't mince words. He speaks of a man whose been at the coal face for 30+ years as coach and has not just seen it all but has also proven he is an old dog who can learn new tricks

He understands too well it is a process because the process and time is needed to make this team Great again

He knows the ladder is at once misleading and a true reflection. Misleading because we are better than our ladder position says we are but true because at the end of the day, in practical terms we haven't won enough games...thus far ... He sees both the abstract and the reality

He knows the umpires killed us last night and he is prepared to use his high standing in the game to make a stern statement about this. He's standing up for our club!

The man, in my view hasn't said a wrong word in a presses or post match all year. He's been on the money the entire way.

He has improved individuals and the team in just 12 real games.

And the great thing is, he looks like he's just starting to get warmed up. It's time to knuckle down, pull the sleeves up, elbow to the grindstone or whatever the !@#$%& it is.

He knows what needs to be done.

Watch carefully. Just like at Collingwood he will simultaneously turn the list into a well drilled, hard nosed, dedicated unit, all the while bringing young men into the team. Before you know it he will bring in the new wave (Bootsma, Cachia and Levi now, soon Menzel, and my guess is Graham and Bucks Jnr shorlty, plus McCinnes).

He's a genius.

He has a challenge on his plate no doubt, but he wouldnt have it any other way now doubt. Something about climbing the mountain, the process.

He will be buoyed by Gibbs' great effort last night.

He will be driven by the need to turn Jeff and Yazz into men.

He knows Lucas has improved and is giving us great run but also needs to toughen up, but he knows now is not the time to bust the lads chops!

He is putting it together, assembling it. Bit by bit. Game by game.

When he said last week "we'll get THERE", strike me if he didnt say this with pure honesty. He knows where we are at. He knows it's within striking distance but some changes are needed to the list and to the culture, and he is making those changes in front of our very eyes.

Anyone who can't see this is !@#$%& blind.


:thumbsup: :clap:
Very much agree. While we may not be winning, there aren't too many guys who either haven't improved or giving it their best. Best barometer in many a year as to where our list is.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:53 am 
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club29 wrote:
There is no doubt he can coach. He can also make mistakes. He is pretty good at covering his own ar5e and deflecting.

What was with complaining about the umps in the media?? Is this what we have become??? He came across as a flower in those pressers. Not sure why seeing our club represented that way made some feel good.

More victim stuff.

Some of our players have responded well to Mick. Others not so.

Nobody is comparing him to Ratts. He is a better coach than Ratts. Some of us just want him to be judged the same way Ratts in the interest of fairness is all.

Ok from now on I am going to try be positive about the man. Hope he makes it easy for me.


Club 29, which player(s) of consequence do you think has not responded well? Laidler to me is perhaps the only one.


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 Post subject: Re: Trust Malthouse
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I would rather Malthouse getting angry about things like umpiring, colours of doctors etc as it shows we will defend ourselves and not put up with crap.

If you let every little thing go, others think you just accept it.


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It's both funny and sad reading rubbish posts from completely ignorant posters


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