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is that you Mark Robinson ?

Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain

Bigredisback wrote:

Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain

This.

Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out.
This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm

Ok...I'm watching the Cats v Hawks match.

To shout the bleeding obvious!....

- Carlton lack imposing players who lead by example (Judd aside) -> read Jake Niall's "Unleash the Mongrel"!!!
- We have too many LAZY players who lack discipline and do not bleed for the jumper every week!
- WE NEED A BIG FF!!!!!!!!!
- We drop our heads too easily! Please bring back the Carlton SWAGGER!

Yes I know we have a new coach (who WILL bring changes)
Yes we have a new game plan
Yes we have some personnel missing
Yes I know it's round 1.

Again though, these areas need to be addressed.

Get rid of Hampson! I've seen enough to warrant his dismissal. Give Rowe a game.
Other's I will lay off for now.

Next week's match is an 8 point game, if you like.

I have faith in MM....for now.

Go Blues!

Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out.
This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm

aboynamedsue wrote:

Bigredisback wrote:

Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain

This.

Agree. I've said it numerous times. If we can be 6-6 or even 7-5 at half way we are in a great position. We are a tough first 5 games. If we are 2-3 that's okay.

Injuries aside I expect to have a very strong second half of the year. We will be much more assured in our style and game plan. Players such as Bootsma, Watson, Casboult should be benefiting from increased game time and guys like Graham & Menzel will be adding some excitement.

Scotland, Waite & Ellard will add to our side as well.

MM will also have a better idea of our best players and who can play the roles required.

Too many people judge on one week. Doesn't give anywhere near the right picture of what's happening.

SurreyBlue wrote:

Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out.
This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm

Doesn't matter who's in charge, anywhere, we won't win a flag until we play GWS at Princes Park!!!

Author:	BlueJean [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:43 pm ]
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Ok...I'm watching the Cats v Hawks match. To shout the bleeding obvious!.... - Carlton lack imposing players who lead by example (Judd aside) -> read Jake Niall's "Unleash the Mongrel"!!! - We have too many LAZY players who lack discipline and do not bleed for the jumper every week! - WE NEED A BIG FF!!!!!!!!! - We drop our heads too easily! Please bring back the Carlton SWAGGER! Yes I know we have a new coach (who WILL bring changes) Yes we have a new game plan Yes we have some personnel missing Yes I know it's round 1. Again though, these areas need to be addressed. Get rid of Hampson! I've seen enough to warrant his dismissal. Give Rowe a game. Other's I will lay off for now. Next week's match is an 8 point game, if you like. I have faith in MM....for now. Go Blues!

Author:	Rexy [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:53 pm ]
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is that you Mark Robinson ?

Author:	BlueJean [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:59 pm ]
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Rexy wrote: is that you Mark Robinson ? No, however Marc Murphy should stop what he's doing now and watch Joel Selwood if he isn't already.

Author:	Rexy [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:00 pm ]
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Anthony Hudson ?

Author:	BlueJean [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:04 pm ]
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Rexy wrote: Anthony Hudson ? Carlton must play Home games at the G. Win-Win

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Author:	Adam Chatfield [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:57 pm ]
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Largely agree with the softness and lack of mongrel. I'm not killing Hampson off though.

Author:	The_Cranium [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:12 pm ]
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Not sure if you saw the game on Thursday night BJ, but Hammer presented time and time and time again. Took some good marks and created a contest. Kicking let him down, but provided a lot more of a target than big Levi. I think there are one or two others that should be in the gun before Hampson

Author:	Heavs [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:49 pm ]
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Rexy wrote: is that you Mark Robinson ? Needs more to be on the same, writing plane, as TGO

Author:	Bigredisback [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:50 pm ]
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Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain

Author:	aboynamedsue [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:47 pm ]
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Bigredisback wrote: Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain This.

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:58 pm ]
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Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out. This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm

Author:	ThePsychologist [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:04 pm ]
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aboynamedsue wrote: Bigredisback wrote: Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain This. Agree. I've said it numerous times. If we can be 6-6 or even 7-5 at half way we are in a great position. We are a tough first 5 games. If we are 2-3 that's okay. Injuries aside I expect to have a very strong second half of the year. We will be much more assured in our style and game plan. Players such as Bootsma, Watson, Casboult should be benefiting from increased game time and guys like Graham & Menzel will be adding some excitement. Scotland, Waite & Ellard will add to our side as well. MM will also have a better idea of our best players and who can play the roles required. Too many people judge on one week. Doesn't give anywhere near the right picture of what's happening.

Author:	aboynamedsue [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:04 pm ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out. This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm I didn't expect us to be top 4 last year. I don't think we'll bottom out this year.

Author:	Bigredisback [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:06 pm ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out. This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm Not saying bottom out but rebuilding a game structure takes time

Author:	4thchicken [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:53 am ]
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Our structure by end of yr will be completely different to the start of the year. Part of this will be due to the players taking the time to adapt, but imo a huge part of it will be malthouse needing to adapt his plan/game style to suit the players we have on hand. Malthouse has said it himself earlier in the year that we couldnt just adopt the pies game plan due to a different mix of players - atm our current structure removes the greatest strength of the team - run/carry/speed across the ground. Look at the game style we have atm - players pause and wait for numbers to build up down the line/boundary and bomb it to out number KFs, we structure up poorly for crumbing opportunities, and indeed clearances (something that we've been very good at previously). This will change over the next few rounds as players become more accustomed to what Mick is asking for, AND as Mick gets a better understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of the playing group.

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Author:	moshe25 [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:07 pm ]
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BlueJean wrote: Ok...I'm watching the Cats v Hawks match. To shout the bleeding obvious!.... - Carlton lack imposing players who lead by example (Judd aside) -> read Jake Niall's "Unleash the Mongrel"!!! - We have too many LAZY players who lack discipline and do not bleed for the jumper every week! - WE NEED A BIG FF!!!!!!!!! - We drop our heads too easily! Please bring back the Carlton SWAGGER! Yes I know we have a new coach (who WILL bring changes) Yes we have a new game plan Yes we have some personnel missing Yes I know it's round 1. Again though, these areas need to be addressed. Get rid of Hampson! I've seen enough to warrant his dismissal. Give Rowe a game. Other's I will lay off for now. Next week's match is an 8 point game, if you like. I have faith in MM....for now. Go Blues! It's a make or break game, I reckon.

Author:	camel [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:29 pm ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out. This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm Doesn't matter who's in charge, anywhere, we won't win a flag until we play GWS at Princes Park!!!

Author:	bluebeard [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:05 pm ]
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ThePsychologist wrote: aboynamedsue wrote: Bigredisback wrote: Guys lets keep it together very even competition and we are doing a massive game style revamp we are in for some pain This. Agree. I've said it numerous times. If we can be 6-6 or even 7-5 at half way we are in a great position. We are a tough first 5 games. If we are 2-3 that's okay. Injuries aside I expect to have a very strong second half of the year. We will be much more assured in our style and game plan. Players such as Bootsma, Watson, Casboult should be benefiting from increased game time and guys like Graham & Menzel will be adding some excitement. Scotland, Waite & Ellard will add to our side as well. MM will also have a better idea of our best players and who can play the roles required. Too many people judge on one week. Doesn't give anywhere near the right picture of what's happening. Bingo! Can everyone just take a breath? Let's settle into this season and ten throw around opinions. It's starting to sound like you bunch are half the problem!

Author:	emtwenty [ Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:12 pm ]
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If one of Yazz's points had been a goal on thursday I don't think this thread would exist.

Author:	TruBlueBrad [ Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:57 am ]
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camelboy wrote: SurreyBlue wrote: Last year expected top 4 finish - this year expected to rebuild/bottom out. This with a premiership coach in-charge.....hmmmm Doesn't matter who's in charge, anywhere, we won't win a flag until we play GWS at Princes Park!!! Or until Freo make a prelim. They haven't been able to do it since their last visit in 2006 so fairs fair, its their turn and we just have to wait.