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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Selecting the Sub |
I was a little surprised about the selection of Joseph as the sub last night. Let this not turn into a thread about how crap Joseph is or isn't. However, I wonder why you'd pick someone like him other than for a specific role. Had Nahas started on the ground, where would that have left us, with Joseph being the obvious match up for him? Was our intell that good last night that we knew Nahas would start as their sub before we selected ours? I'd much rather see a real impact player as the sub, someone who can some on and swing the game, or at least cause a mismatch. It seems obvious to use the 22nd best player as sub, but I'm not convinced. When Robbo went off last night, you knew right off that our team was considerably weaker with Joseph brought on to play a role that he probably wasn't selected for. The non-use of Nahas exacerbated the problem. Some of the players that I'd see as ideal subs, that might be on the fringe, include: Lucas (although I thought he was good last night) Duigan (can possibly play forward or back) Rowe (ruck, forward or back) Touhy White (forward or back) |
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| Author: | RickJ [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Good topic NBH. Conservatism says pick a player with maximum flexibility to fill positional holes, and in this respect White would be a good choice. However the "Jack of all Trades Master of None" theory says that this type of player is unlikely to give you the oomph to get over the line when things are desperate or tight in a tense last quarter. Alternatively a burst player with electrifying pace who can run a tiring opposition off their legs might give you the oomph you need late in the game. Most subs only get one quarter max and sometimes much less, so I think it's unfair to any player to play them as a semipermanent sub fixture. This would be majorly detrimental to player development. Lucas and Touhy come to mind as two who have reasonable flexibility and who both have a bit of X factor about them for the oomph I'm talking about. And I don't think we'd miss too much with either of them at the moment if they didn't play the whole game. AJ no. |
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| Author: | Nick [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Agree with the post however as a general rule I wouldn't select a tall player as a sub. They limit you too much if someone goes down, you wouldn't bring a Rowe on for e.g. if a Marc Murphy went down. I think small players as sub give you a lot more flexibility. Collins, Lucas, Touhy are good candidates. |
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| Author: | cuddles [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Tom Bell would of been the perfect sub last night to be honest. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Bell should be in the side and will be soon i reckon. Menzel will be the sub soon .... he will pay the Fasolo role...super sub But we need more effort and harmony coming from our midfield... |
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| Author: | aboynamedsue [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
RickJ wrote: Good topic NBH. Conservatism says pick a player with maximum flexibility to fill positional holes, and in this respect White would be a good choice. However the "Jack of all Trades Master of None" theory says that this type of player is unlikely to give you the oomph to get over the line when things are desperate or tight in a tense last quarter. Alternatively a burst player with electrifying pace who can run a tiring opposition off their legs might give you the oomph you need late in the game. Most subs only get one quarter max and sometimes much less, so I think it's unfair to any player to play them as a semipermanent sub fixture. This would be majorly detrimental to player development. Lucas and Touhy come to mind as two who have reasonable flexibility and who both have a bit of X factor about them for the oomph I'm talking about. And I don't think we'd miss too much with either of them at the moment if they didn't play the whole game. AJ no. Get oomph! |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Sub should be a running player. Someone with some speed who's able to take advantage of the speed being out of the game who can break some lines and bust a game open. He doesn't have to be able to play multiple positions. You're allowed to move other players around. |
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| Author: | Stefchook [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
I hope most weeks it's one of our younger, fringe players, who might otherwise not get a game. |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
TruBlueBrad wrote: Sub should be a running player. Someone with some speed who's able to take advantage of the speed being out of the game who can break some lines and bust a game open. He doesn't have to be able to play multiple positions. You're allowed to move other players around. Sounds like Bootsma! |
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| Author: | Stamos [ Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Selecting the Sub |
Has to be a runner who can make an impact, and probably not in the best 21 Bell for example |
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