GWS wrote:
Disappointing thread.
I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job.
I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job.
Me too...........
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| Author: | padre [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hampson positional flexibility |
I have watched the evolution of our ruck stocks over the years into a potentially potent force . But one thing that strikes me, is that all 3 are too good to be on the side lines. Having The third person as depth, seems to me to be a waste of the athleticism of K and H. Clearly W is limited to a tap ruckmen role and should play in that role if he is to stay at the club and not be traded. But that leaves K and our boy hampson. Imo kreuzer has to play on the ball, he just that good. His ball hunting ability is extraordinary, and as many have identified, plays often as an extra midfielder. Why not solidify his position as a ruck rover type, with warnock as the tap ruckmen? And so to hampson. I feel that a new role should be found for hampson. We know he can play forward, and perhaps that is his position. But with casboult, waite, rowe, mitchel as big targets , and with high flyers walker and betts as other targets, should we be looking at other options, namely a defensive position or possibly a wing. Defense looks a liitle more interesting to me. A backline with jamison henderson and hampson looks good to me. Could jamison who is a little undersized, be re- roled into taking the third forward? Could henderson play full back and hampson half back? Hampson seems fairly mobile to me, but may need the straight lines of chb to work as a defender. But imo that is why henderson is working so well at chb, he may struggle as a fb. Or not? Could hampson play the third defender floating across the backline? Interested in others thoughts. |
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| Author: | 99prelim [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
padre wrote: I have watched the evolution of our ruck stocks over the years into a potentially potent force . But one thing that strikes me, is that all 3 are too good to be on the side lines. Having The third person as depth, seems to me to be a waste of the athleticism of K and H. Clearly W is limited to a tap ruckmen role and should play in that role if he is to stay at the club and not be traded. But that leaves K and our boy hampson. Imo kreuzer has to play on the ball, he just that good. His ball hunting ability is extraordinary, and as many have identified, plays often as an extra midfielder. Why not solidify his position as a ruck rover type, with warnock as the tap ruckmen? And so to hampson. I feel that a new role should be found for hampson. We know he can play forward, and perhaps that is his position. But with casboult, waite, rowe, mitchel as big targets , and with high flyers walker and betts as other targets, should we be looking at other options, namely a defensive position or possibly a wing. Defense looks a liitle more interesting to me. A backline with jamison henderson and hampson looks good to me. Could jamison who is a little undersized, be re- roled into taking the third forward? Could henderson play full back and hampson half back? Hampson seems fairly mobile to me, but may need the straight lines of chb to work as a defender. But imo that is why henderson is working so well at chb, he may struggle as a fb. Or not? Could hampson play the third defender floating across the backline? Interested in others thoughts. Pure tapwork Warnock > Kruezer > Hampson Forward Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Around the ground mobility Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Marking Kruezer > Hampson > Warnock Kicking Kruezer > Warnock > Hampson No brainer for the MC Kruezer and Hampson as followers/rest in fwd line Warnock finished, enough chances |
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| Author: | GWS [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Disappointing thread. I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job. |
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| Author: | Warby [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
GWS wrote: Disappointing thread. I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job. Me too...........
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hampson positional flexibility |
Warby wrote: GWS wrote: Disappointing thread. I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job. Me too........... To add to your collection? |
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| Author: | Warby [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
bluechucky wrote: Warby wrote: GWS wrote: Disappointing thread. I read the title and expected pictures of a naked Megan Gale on the job. Me too........... To add to your collection? Keep digging chucky.......... 
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| Author: | Springsteen [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Kruezer is a ruckman come part time forwad for rest, to suggest he plays ruck rover is crazy. |
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| Author: | DocSherrin III [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
padre wrote: I feel that a new role should be found for hampson. I agree. Carlton attaché to China. 
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| Author: | CK95 [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
99prelim wrote: Pure tapwork Warnock > Kruezer > Hampson Forward Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Around the ground mobility Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Marking Kruezer > Hampson > Warnock Kicking Kruezer > Warnock > Hampson Good summary. The thing that complicates it for me is I reckon it's actually: Pure tapwork Warnock >>>> Kruezer > Hampson |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Springsteen wrote: Kruezer is a ruckman come part time forwad for rest, to suggest he plays ruck rover is crazy. Who knows? Kreuzer seems to play as a midfielder after the tap >>>Hampson >>>Kreuzer Kreuzer has got good hands. When he's chasing a ball the oppposition don't push or bump him off his line and he usually gets what he attacks if its in his vicinity. That sounds like a ruck rover. Kouta was 190cm. In 1995 he was a ruck rover....the prototype of the next era. That was 18 years ago. Have a look at the following picture to get my drift. Nichols was 189cm and the best ruck in the comp in the 60's and 70's. Judd is 189cm and of the best ruck rovers in the AFL. Kreuzer in 2013 just happens to be 200ck amd 104 kgs...but he can run like hell and turn without losing his feet like some of our smaller players with lower centre of gravity do. Who knows? Not a silly idea to consider though. |
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| Author: | The_Wookie [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
CK95 wrote: 99prelim wrote: Pure tapwork Warnock > Kruezer > Hampson Forward Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Around the ground mobility Hampson = Kruezer > Warnock Marking Kruezer > Hampson > Warnock Kicking Kruezer > Warnock > Hampson Good summary. The thing that complicates it for me is I reckon it's actually: Pure tapwork Warnock >>>> Kruezer > Hampson What should make it less complicated is for hitouts to advantage its very much Kreuzer -> Hampson -> Warnock. First part of last season, Hampson was third best in the league for hitouts to advantage. |
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| Author: | CK95 [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
NICK OFF, WARNOCK! |
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| Author: | 4thchicken [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
99prelim wrote: Marking Kruezer > Hampson > Warnock I have hampson ahead of kreuzer in marking ability (as of last season) |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Early days wwriting of Warnock. I still believe he will be the best... |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
They're all pretty good. The problem is they're all ruck/forward. All will play their best football in the ruck and we've invested too much in them to have 1 lanquishing in the VFL and another spending the majority of his time forward. Its going to be interesting to see what happens at the end of the season. I like all three but you'd think one has to go. |
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Problem with knockers is that he simply doesn't do enough outside of tap outs. You can't carry all three in the team at once, but if they cast away their egos and be willing to be rotated through we could have the best ruck combo going around. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
He will be right.... he just needs confidence not too many 26/25 yos havent played 50 games. He just needs a cach to help him flick the switch and be injury free. Hes a better player around the ground and up forward than people think. He had a low pass on the weekend but hes better in the air.. Remeember the Swans final??? And he can do it when he has to.... he just needs to want it more!!!.. but i believe thats a confidence issue If Kreuzer and Hampson were both out .. i reckon youd see him blossom |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
bluechucky wrote: Problem with knockers is that he simply doesn't do enough outside of tap outs. Don't agree. Warnock has very good endurance for a big bloke. If he can get a fair run at it and some confidence you will see his positioning, marking and making space for mids is as good or better than the other two. |
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| Author: | Synbad [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
hes a naturally better mark than Hammer and he does fight for it on the ground and is pretty good below his knees... he has shown it... which means he can do it. and he is faster than people think. hes an interesting one is Warnock.... if we can find the pin number to punch into him he will dominate rucking |
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| Author: | ThePsychologist [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hampson positional flexibility |
Synbad wrote: If Kreuzer and Hampson were both out .. i reckon youd see him blossom This is our big issue. When a Ruckman is "made" the No.1 watch them thrive. They work into the game and gain confidence. Rarely do Ruckman excel sharing the duties. |
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