I still can't believe we kept Barker
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| Author: | camel [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Following the appointment of Brad Green, here's our final list of coaches... The Carlton Coaching Panel for 2013 is: • Mick Malthouse - Senior Coach • Rob Wiley - Director Development and Coaching • John Barker - Assistant Coach • Gavin Brown - Assistant Coach • Brad Green - Midfield Development Coach • Matthew Capuano - Development and Ruck Coach • Luke Webster - Development and VFL Coach |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
I still can't believe we kept Barker
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| Author: | camel [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Donstuie wrote: I still can't believe we kept Barker He must offer something I suppose. But aside from making all the other coaches seem smarter and better looking, I'm struggling to see what it could be. |
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| Author: | bluechucky [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:15 am ] |
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Me too. Strange decision that. |
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| Author: | dane [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:30 am ] |
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Sack barker immediately. |
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| Author: | Siegfried [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
One of the questions for me is how much was it a case of Barker implementing Ratten's game plan as forward coach, and how much was it Barker being charged with devising his own system to fit in with Ratten's game plan. IMHO, Ratten's game plan, and especially the plan going into forward 50, was deeply flawed. If Barker was carrying out instructions, then it mitigates to some degree the apparent lack of cohesion and potency of the forward line. It will be interesting to see next year, when MM gives Barker a very definite brief on how the forward half should structure up, whether Barker is able to implement that. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Has more to do with Barker having a guaranteed contract for 2013 than anything else I'd think. |
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| Author: | BigKev [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:36 pm ] |
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It would've been nice to get someone who had playing under one of the more recent multiple premiership coaches, (I'm thinking people like Matthews, Thompson ... ). I suppose we did try. Anyway, I get the feeling that MM's not really too concerned with any else's ideas, so long as they'll implement his. (And I guess that is what we're paying the big bucks for). |
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| Author: | keogh [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Is Luke Webster full time 
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| Author: | ianh [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:36 am ] |
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keogh wrote: Is Luke Webster full time Sh1t I hope not - as experience tells us, part-time works perfectly well so why not save the money.
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| Author: | Blue Vain [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:04 am ] |
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Would you pack up and move across the other side of the country for a part time role? |
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| Author: | camel [ Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:46 pm ] |
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Blue Vain wrote: Would you pack up and move across the other side of the country for a part time role? I dunno, it's not like the daily commute would be that bad from Perth. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
TruBlueBrad wrote: Has more to do with Barker having a guaranteed contract for 2013 than anything else I'd think. Hasn't stopped us from sakcing others |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:21 am ] |
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Donstuie wrote: TruBlueBrad wrote: Has more to do with Barker having a guaranteed contract for 2013 than anything else I'd think. Hasn't stopped us from sakcing others I dont believe any of the others had a contract for the entire year. Williams received 3 months and Riley was being retrenched until we reached an agreement with him. So yeh maybe we could have done similar with Barker, but without that contract Im not sure he'd still be here in 2013. |
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| Author: | camel [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
We should have traded him. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Siegfried wrote: One of the questions for me is how much was it a case of Barker implementing Ratten's game plan as forward coach, and how much was it Barker being charged with devising his own system to fit in with Ratten's game plan. IMHO, Ratten's game plan, and especially the plan going into forward 50, was deeply flawed. If Barker was carrying out instructions, then it mitigates to some degree the apparent lack of cohesion and potency of the forward line. It will be interesting to see next year, when MM gives Barker a very definite brief on how the forward half should structure up, whether Barker is able to implement that. THIS is what makes sense to me |
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| Author: | Mark J [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
Love to see a; Jude Bolton Paul Chapman Lenny Hayes type, on that list one day. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Finalised 2013 coaching panel |
bondiblue wrote: Siegfried wrote: One of the questions for me is how much was it a case of Barker implementing Ratten's game plan as forward coach, and how much was it Barker being charged with devising his own system to fit in with Ratten's game plan. IMHO, Ratten's game plan, and especially the plan going into forward 50, was deeply flawed. If Barker was carrying out instructions, then it mitigates to some degree the apparent lack of cohesion and potency of the forward line. It will be interesting to see next year, when MM gives Barker a very definite brief on how the forward half should structure up, whether Barker is able to implement that. THIS is what makes sense to me In fairness none of us can speculate whether it's the chicken or the egg in this case, and you'd like to think that receiving clear instructions from Mick would give him the best opportunity to succeed. I just think back though to all those Hawks supporters beaming that he was gone and laughing at us for taking him. |
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