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Author:  Headcutter [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Plenty of Positives from tonight.

** Playing with some endeavour and intensity (finally)

** Watson will be a gun - I have been saying it for 12 months and get howled down by some of you. He will take time to develop (as all bigger players do) eventually he will be our back line "quarterback" and be our CHB.

** We are no longer so dependant on Judd, yes we lost but the team found a way to be competitive even with Judd very quiet.

** Coached pretty well tonight, the problem was not Fwd line structure but rather HB line and mid field not getting the ball in time a and space to deliver to fwds

** Ellard, Diugan, Jamo, Touhy, Robbo, Betts playing well.

** Joseph unlikely to play again

** I hate losing but there is a silver lining. Bring on 2013

Author:  Bluey44 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  R12: Pros and Cons

PROS

-Carrots
-Carrots
-Carrots (Could have potentially won a Norm Smith if Geelong had kept him)
-Effort
-Tenacity
-Watson
-Better kicking for goal

CONS

-Umpires
-People blaming everything on the umpires (deflects attention)
-Forward Entries
-Small forwards no impact
-Dropped marks / sloppy handling
-Booting straight to West Coast players from kick-ins and halfback (more in the first half)
-No competition for spots = dead wood (Garlett, AJ, among others)
-Yarran (What is wrong?? Turf Toe?)
-Not being able to play Walker where he has an impact
-Judd (Injured? Frustrated? Sick of Ratts?)
-Only gets uglier from here. The pressure if not going away.

Author:  Italian Blue [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plenty of Positives from tonight.

Headcutter wrote:
** Playing with some endeavour and intensity (finally)

** Watson will be a gun - I have been saying it for 12 months and get howled down by some of you. He will take time to develop (as all bigger players do) eventually he will be our back line "quarterback" and be our CHB.

** We are no longer so dependant on Judd, yes we lost but the team found a way to be competitive even with Judd very quiet.

** Coached pretty well tonight, the problem was not Fwd line structure but rather HB line and mid field not getting the ball in time a and space to deliver to fwds

** Ellard, Diugan, Jamo, Touhy, Robbo, Betts playing well.

** Joseph unlikely to play again

** I hate losing but there is a silver lining. Bring on 2013



More spin.... :mad: :hitcomputer:

Author:  Eddie [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pros;
Carrazzo
Watson
Gibbs, thought his last 2 weeks have been pretty good.
No new injuries
At least a couple of players at home showed support with their tweets, although there will no doubt be a please explain.

Cons;
Umpiring
Judd-something is clearly wrong
AJ
Our season is just about shot
Garlett
So sick and tired of this.

Author:  diesel_85 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plenty of Positives from tonight.

time to bite the preverbial bullet
Watson, Boots, Lucas should play every game from here on in. NO EXCUSES
we MUST develop these boys for 2013 and beyond
2012 is gone and it is the clubs duty, from the board down to the boot studder, to plan for the future
Ratts is worried about his job and will do the old watson out for bower russell and thornton in
Plan for our next flag, of which boots lucas and watto may be a part of. Bower, russell thornton AJ mclean will not

Author:  Hornet [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Cons:
The 'Cons' list is always longer than the 'Pros' list these days...

Author:  Bluey44 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Yes forgot pro - no new injuries & players back sooner than expected.

Author:  Bluey44 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Hornet wrote:
Cons:
The 'Cons' list is always longer than the 'Pros' list these days...


I guess it's human nature to focus on the negatives after a disappointing loss. (or two)

Author:  diesel_85 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Bluey44 wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Cons:
The 'Cons' list is always longer than the 'Pros' list these days...


I guess it's human nature to focus on the negatives after a disappointing loss. (or two)

or 6

Author:  cimm1979 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plenty of Positives from tonight.

Headcutter wrote:
** Playing with some endeavour and intensity (finally)

** Watson will be a gun - I have been saying it for 12 months and get howled down by some of you. He will take time to develop (as all bigger players do) eventually he will be our back line "quarterback" and be our CHB.

** We are no longer so dependant on Judd, yes we lost but the team found a way to be competitive even with Judd very quiet.

** Coached pretty well tonight, the problem was not Fwd line structure but rather HB line and mid field not getting the ball in time a and space to deliver to fwds

** Ellard, Diugan, Jamo, Touhy, Robbo, Betts playing well.

** Joseph unlikely to play again

** I hate losing but there is a silver lining. Bring on 2013


Mate, go sell drugs to the flower homeless like any self respecting pusher would.

Author:  chubbyruss [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Cons

Our last 2 wins have been against GWS & Melbourne

We couldn't even beat Port Adelaide

Author:  Bluey44 [ Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plenty of Positives from tonight.

cimm1979 wrote:
Headcutter wrote:
** Playing with some endeavour and intensity (finally)

** Watson will be a gun - I have been saying it for 12 months and get howled down by some of you. He will take time to develop (as all bigger players do) eventually he will be our back line "quarterback" and be our CHB.

** We are no longer so dependant on Judd, yes we lost but the team found a way to be competitive even with Judd very quiet.

** Coached pretty well tonight, the problem was not Fwd line structure but rather HB line and mid field not getting the ball in time a and space to deliver to fwds

** Ellard, Diugan, Jamo, Touhy, Robbo, Betts playing well.

** Joseph unlikely to play again

** I hate losing but there is a silver lining. Bring on 2013



Mate, go sell drugs to the flower homeless like any self respecting pusher would.



I think he has some fair points.
But im not totally convinced that the coaching was a pro...

Author:  sinbagger [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pros:

- I saw my second match of the year live with a friend who got me seats in the Weagles members area a couple of rows from the boundary behind the Blues interchange area
- I got drunk

Cons:

- I saw my second match of the year live with a friend who got me seats in the Weagles members area a couple of rows from the boundary behind the Blues interchange area

Author:  Lowey_47 [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Con: Disappointing that Carazzo, had such an impact in first game back. Not a very good side without the 'gun' players on the park...

Author:  chubbyruss [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Con

Playing Judd whilst injured

Ratten owning up to it on ABC news :donk:

Dumb :banghead: Dumb :banghead: Dumb :banghead:

Author:  ThePsychologist [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pros: Shows we have the talent

Cons: Wasting time and going nowhere

Author:  j.scarponi [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pros:
second half of season is a good run and I will be bitterly disapointed if we don't get a strong run of wins.
carrots!
able to get close in games against top sides with no key forwards dominating.

cons: onfield leadership group in first half.
judd!
No room for Hendo in the backline but always thought he needs 2-3 games to get itno the rythm in the forward line
contested marking is very poor.

Author:  Wojee [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

sinbagger wrote:
- I saw my second match of the year live with a friend who got me seats in the Weagles members area a couple of rows from the boundary behind the Blues interchange area


Hope you had a shower afterwards to wash the moron off.

Author:  dannyboy [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pro

The bye

Con

It only lasts 1 week.

Author:  ubettsya [ Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: R12: Pros and Cons

Pro:
Carrots: All Class

Cons:

Game Plan...First half !!! What game plan? Get the ball and bomb it long and hope for the best...

Joseph... Joke!!! Bootsma should have been replacement for Hampson. Collins starts as sub, then Yarran is subbed off, you would think if Joseph was dropped for this game and was a late replacement he would start as the sub. Not only did he not start as the sub but did not even get subbed off after numerous stuff ups...Shocking decision...costly decision...

Ratten...Looks just like a supporter...his passion and love for the club is like you me and everyone else...But do we see any other coach carry on like he does...Its quite embarrassing, get back in your box Brett and coach like a normal coach does :donk:

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