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Well given everyone else has started a new thread, I thought I would take a different tack to most.
Got up this morning, noted that all the talk on talk back is about Melbourne. Good the less said by the media about last night the better. Had a quick coffee and headed off to my morning training session with my ex, who is also my one of my trainers. Weird? So? Had a quick lunch picked up BMjnr and headed to BJJ, grooved out to Battle Beasts “Steel” CD, as Molly said do yourself a favour. “Didn’t go so well last night huh Dad.” “Nope, bad loss” “Remember when we used to go every week and watch us get trashed” ‘Yep” “That sucked” “Yep”
Get to BJJ; sort out the personalised sessions BMjnr is going to have as his injuries are playing up. I then helped some guys work technique. Everyone is talking about the current Mundials (World Champs) being held in the U.S and a few of the team are competing in. Gold and a Bronze so far. Pretty good results. With luck we will score gold and a podium or two. No one is talking footy.
Get home and have a quick snooze and complete two assignments for my course. Hand in tomorrow on way to work which means I can skip class this week.
So what’s the moral of the story? Well we got beaten last night. Badly and it was not a good look. But be buggered if I am going to go into panic mode over it. Life goes on. Success and defeat depends on many factors some you can control some you can’t. But I do know that if you have a defeatist attitude then it becomes a self fulling prophecy. Talk down things enough then things will go wrong. I have been around elite athletes enough to know that when things are going well, life, training and competing is easier. When things aren’t then life, training and competing is much harder. Defeat is hard work. I also know that you have to take a positive attitude into what you do and simply work harder and smarter; if you do things turn around, pretty quickly. But the most important thing is that knockers, hysterics and ranters are not needed or wanted at any time. Cool rational analysis yes. Agenda driven ranting no. I have full faith in the coaching staff and the players to turn this around fairly quickly, something I look forward to.

We all know its going to be a good week for you Synners, so carry on.

No way

House of cards
The fish rots at the head
Something is rotten in the suburb of Carlton
Something is fishy
It stinks
We are going backwards

SAKC everyone
Get Malthouse

BM - I understand what you're saying, but do you really think that a site dedicated to following the fortunes of the Carlton Football Club is the place for thread ostensibly saying that it doesn't really matter all that much if they win or lose?

Know thy audience. :thumbsup:

ah jim so glad you know all the answers - its just about being piss weak supporters nothing more...
very much the line dragged out in the death throes of Elliott & co...
just piss weak supporters etc...

truth is

some are happy with where the team are at

some are not

and a bunch of us inbetween who see other clubs performing well and developing depth and structures
while we seem to jump between brilliance and mediocrity

strong clubs diminish that jump in playing performance

strong clubs allow that jump in the spectrum of what it is to support

Carlton has talent, sadly much of it not on the park at the moment

but have we depth?

Have we structures for the group and for the young players to step into that group

or is the structure come in and play HBF and thats about it?

why is Carrots our only successful tagger this season?

why did Maclean spend time at HF on the weekend, or am I wrong in thinking that happened?

If Kruise really was sore three or so weeks ago, why not rest him against Melbourne? Wasn't it dangerous to continue to risk him?

Did Carlton misread the trend in football towards contested? While others beefed up did we slim down? Do we as a club even attempt to read the trend?

These are just some of the questions I have - and no i am not happy and no we were not 6 -1 we were 3-0 then 3-1, then 5-1 then 5-3 now 6-4 - that's not a good trend.

Are we happy to simply lay all the blame at injuries?

I am not. I think the soft underbelly is not new. I think we need our best 22 on the park or we stumble - after 5 years why is that stumble as apparent now as it was in the beginning?

Or do you think it is just injuries and nothing more?

Danny
piss weak supporter.

Heading to Europe for 2 months after the Hawks game so could not give a Ratts toss bag anymore.

See what I did there, Ratts instead of rats, get it, get it?

Author:	BlueMark [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:50 pm ]
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Well given everyone else has started a new thread, I thought I would take a different tack to most. Got up this morning, noted that all the talk on talk back is about Melbourne. Good the less said by the media about last night the better. Had a quick coffee and headed off to my morning training session with my ex, who is also my one of my trainers. Weird? So? Had a quick lunch picked up BMjnr and headed to BJJ, grooved out to Battle Beasts “Steel” CD, as Molly said do yourself a favour. “Didn’t go so well last night huh Dad.” “Nope, bad loss” “Remember when we used to go every week and watch us get trashed” ‘Yep” “That sucked” “Yep” Get to BJJ; sort out the personalised sessions BMjnr is going to have as his injuries are playing up. I then helped some guys work technique. Everyone is talking about the current Mundials (World Champs) being held in the U.S and a few of the team are competing in. Gold and a Bronze so far. Pretty good results. With luck we will score gold and a podium or two. No one is talking footy. Get home and have a quick snooze and complete two assignments for my course. Hand in tomorrow on way to work which means I can skip class this week. So what’s the moral of the story? Well we got beaten last night. Badly and it was not a good look. But be buggered if I am going to go into panic mode over it. Life goes on. Success and defeat depends on many factors some you can control some you can’t. But I do know that if you have a defeatist attitude then it becomes a self fulling prophecy. Talk down things enough then things will go wrong. I have been around elite athletes enough to know that when things are going well, life, training and competing is easier. When things aren’t then life, training and competing is much harder. Defeat is hard work. I also know that you have to take a positive attitude into what you do and simply work harder and smarter; if you do things turn around, pretty quickly. But the most important thing is that knockers, hysterics and ranters are not needed or wanted at any time. Cool rational analysis yes. Agenda driven ranting no. I have full faith in the coaching staff and the players to turn this around fairly quickly, something I look forward to.

Author:	Bluey44 [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
No way House of cards The fish rots at the head Something is rotten in the suburb of Carlton Something is fishy It stinks We are going backwards SAKC everyone Get Malthouse

Author:	bluedog [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:01 am ]
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CARLTONISLIFE

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:15 am ]
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BlueMark wrote: Well given everyone else has started a new thread, I thought I would take a different tack to most. Got up this morning, noted that all the talk on talk back is about Melbourne. Good the less said by the media about last night the better. Had a quick coffee and headed off to my morning training session with my ex, who is also my one of my trainers. Weird? So? Had a quick lunch picked up BMjnr and headed to BJJ, grooved out to Battle Beasts “Steel” CD, as Molly said do yourself a favour. “Didn’t go so well last night huh Dad.” “Nope, bad loss” “Remember when we used to go every week and watch us get trashed” ‘Yep” “That sucked” “Yep” Get to BJJ; sort out the personalised sessions BMjnr is going to have as his injuries are playing up. I then helped some guys work technique. Everyone is talking about the current Mundials (World Champs) being held in the U.S and a few of the team are competing in. Gold and a Bronze so far. Pretty good results. With luck we will score gold and a podium or two. No one is talking footy. Get home and have a quick snooze and complete two assignments for my course. Hand in tomorrow on way to work which means I can skip class this week. So what’s the moral of the story? Well we got beaten last night. Badly and it was not a good look. But be buggered if I am going to go into panic mode over it. Life goes on. Success and defeat depends on many factors some you can control some you can’t. But I do know that if you have a defeatist attitude then it becomes a self fulling prophecy. Talk down things enough then things will go wrong. I have been around elite athletes enough to know that when things are going well, life, training and competing is easier. When things aren’t then life, training and competing is much harder. Defeat is hard work. I also know that you have to take a positive attitude into what you do and simply work harder and smarter; if you do things turn around, pretty quickly. But the most important thing is that knockers, hysterics and ranters are not needed or wanted at any time. Cool rational analysis yes. Agenda driven ranting no. I have full faith in the coaching staff and the players to turn this around fairly quickly, something I look forward to. Turn around quickly.... you mean 11 years 1 finals win quickly????

Author:	BlueMark [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
We all know its going to be a good week for you Synners, so carry on.

TalkingCarlton http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/

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Author:	Kouta [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:19 am ]
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Sugar coaters aren't welcome. I want them to be brave and lose to Melbourne whilst having the right structure under Thompson...

Author:	Synbad [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
BlueMark wrote: We all know its going to be a good week for you Synners, so carry on. What the club does has nothing to do with me... and everything to do with how the club is travellin g frok top to bottom. So carry on.

Author:	Blueboy_Dan [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
Heading to Europe for 2 months after the Hawks game so could not give a Ratts toss bag anymore. See what I did there, Ratts instead of rats, get it, get it?

Author:	j.scarponi [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
Bluey44 wrote: No way House of cards The fish rots at the head Something is rotten in the suburb of Carlton Something is fishy It stinks We are going backwards SAKC everyone Get Malthouse

Author:	jim [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:18 am ]
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BlueMark wrote: Well given everyone else has started a new thread, I thought I would take a different tack to most. Got up this morning, noted that all the talk on talk back is about Melbourne. Good the less said by the media about last night the better. Had a quick coffee and headed off to my morning training session with my ex, who is also my one of my trainers. Weird? So? Had a quick lunch picked up BMjnr and headed to BJJ, grooved out to Battle Beasts “Steel” CD, as Molly said do yourself a favour. “Didn’t go so well last night huh Dad.” “Nope, bad loss” “Remember when we used to go every week and watch us get trashed” ‘Yep” “That sucked” “Yep” Get to BJJ; sort out the personalised sessions BMjnr is going to have as his injuries are playing up. I then helped some guys work technique. Everyone is talking about the current Mundials (World Champs) being held in the U.S and a few of the team are competing in. Gold and a Bronze so far. Pretty good results. With luck we will score gold and a podium or two. No one is talking footy. Get home and have a quick snooze and complete two assignments for my course. Hand in tomorrow on way to work which means I can skip class this week. So what’s the moral of the story? Well we got beaten last night. Badly and it was not a good look. But be buggered if I am going to go into panic mode over it. Life goes on. Success and defeat depends on many factors some you can control some you can’t. But I do know that if you have a defeatist attitude then it becomes a self fulling prophecy. Talk down things enough then things will go wrong. I have been around elite athletes enough to know that when things are going well, life, training and competing is easier. When things aren’t then life, training and competing is much harder. Defeat is hard work. I also know that you have to take a positive attitude into what you do and simply work harder and smarter; if you do things turn around, pretty quickly. But the most important thing is that knockers, hysterics and ranters are not needed or wanted at any time. Cool rational analysis yes. Agenda driven ranting no. I have full faith in the coaching staff and the players to turn this around fairly quickly, something I look forward to. Life can't possibly be go on....it's the end of the world, what you talking about...lol! One of the few percent of posters that can actually think. Most of the other's are singing their club song..."Oh we're from Tigerland". I learn not to take their opinions seriously after a bad loss or two because you know it's going to be sh1t and drivel. No ability to handle adversity at all. Weaker than the players. Life is going so bad at 6-4 (lol), not as good at 6-1 when we were playing for top spot. No, we can't have been playing for that, the club and the coach are no good. Admittedly those losses were weak but then again there are other things to life too to be all obsessed with a bad run and carry on like pork chops. Must be my elite coaching background in track and field that makes me think differently and actually analyse. Imagine analysing instead of ranting like a flower.

Author:	dannyboy [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:47 am ]
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ah jim so glad you know all the answers - its just about being piss weak supporters nothing more... very much the line dragged out in the death throes of Elliott & co... just piss weak supporters etc... truth is some are happy with where the team are at some are not and a bunch of us inbetween who see other clubs performing well and developing depth and structures while we seem to jump between brilliance and mediocrity strong clubs diminish that jump in playing performance strong clubs allow that jump in the spectrum of what it is to support Carlton has talent, sadly much of it not on the park at the moment but have we depth? Have we structures for the group and for the young players to step into that group or is the structure come in and play HBF and thats about it? why is Carrots our only successful tagger this season? why did Maclean spend time at HF on the weekend, or am I wrong in thinking that happened? If Kruise really was sore three or so weeks ago, why not rest him against Melbourne? Wasn't it dangerous to continue to risk him? Did Carlton misread the trend in football towards contested? While others beefed up did we slim down? Do we as a club even attempt to read the trend? These are just some of the questions I have - and no i am not happy and no we were not 6 -1 we were 3-0 then 3-1, then 5-1 then 5-3 now 6-4 - that's not a good trend. Are we happy to simply lay all the blame at injuries? I am not. I think the soft underbelly is not new. I think we need our best 22 on the park or we stumble - after 5 years why is that stumble as apparent now as it was in the beginning? Or do you think it is just injuries and nothing more? Danny piss weak supporter.

Author:	BigKev [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Life Goes On
BM - I understand what you're saying, but do you really think that a site dedicated to following the fortunes of the Carlton Football Club is the place for thread ostensibly saying that it doesn't really matter all that much if they win or lose? Know thy audience.

Author:	chubbyruss [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:13 pm ]
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On a lighter note Night With Fev at Soho http://www.southernfootballleague.com.a ... v-at-soho/ Then he will play for New Norfolk on 16/6/2012 New Norfolk -V- Huonville Boyer Oval

Author:	bluegirl72 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:27 pm ]
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BigKev wrote: BM - I understand what you're saying, but do you really think that a site dedicated to following the fortunes of the Carlton Football Club is the place for thread ostensibly saying that it doesn't really matter all that much if they win or lose? Know thy audience. yes indeedy, was thinking that very thing. If we were the types to chuck it in after a little slump, then yeah, I'd agree with BM and Jim, but nah..this is years of supporting through harsh times, then the sniff, and promise of top4, even if we thought top 5 (quietly) but, as DB so beautifully put it, it's starting to hurt, seeing all our promise going nowhere, real talent like in Gibbsy seemingly drying up, and looking jaded. Then compare that with the way the Crows, Bombers, Eagles,and yes, loveable Tiges are going. I mean c'mon.....even Juddy said we are lacking depth. I hope we crawl back up, and if we can win without our injured, good players, some faith might be restored. There is something wrong though. we feel it because we love the club so much.

Author:	Bluey44 [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:56 am ]
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Doesnt the Mayan calendar tell us that life WON'T go on after 2012? This will be our last season in the AFL! Roll the dice! Send ROK to Munich to get some calf's blood injections Play Buckley Send Jamo to full forward Put 2 x tags on selwood Go for broke! The world is ending !!

Author:	The Normal One [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:47 pm ]
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December 22nd is when the party happens.

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Author:	club29 [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:29 pm ]
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I like to think the players have lost a bit of interest in footy because they have better more worldly things to do and are simply earning money to fund a year long backpacking trip at seasons end. Can't blame them for that. Leave the footy head robot bogan stuff for the collingwood nuffs . Life goes on

Author:	GWS [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:37 pm ]
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dannyboy wrote: ah jim so glad you know all the answers - its just about being piss weak supporters nothing more... very much the line dragged out in the death throes of Elliott & co... just piss weak supporters etc... truth is some are happy with where the team are at some are not and a bunch of us inbetween who see other clubs performing well and developing depth and structures while we seem to jump between brilliance and mediocrity strong clubs diminish that jump in playing performance strong clubs allow that jump in the spectrum of what it is to support Carlton has talent, sadly much of it not on the park at the moment but have we depth? Have we structures for the group and for the young players to step into that group or is the structure come in and play HBF and thats about it? why is Carrots our only successful tagger this season? why did Maclean spend time at HF on the weekend, or am I wrong in thinking that happened? If Kruise really was sore three or so weeks ago, why not rest him against Melbourne? Wasn't it dangerous to continue to risk him? Did Carlton misread the trend in football towards contested? While others beefed up did we slim down? Do we as a club even attempt to read the trend? These are just some of the questions I have - and no i am not happy and no we were not 6 -1 we were 3-0 then 3-1, then 5-1 then 5-3 now 6-4 - that's not a good trend. Are we happy to simply lay all the blame at injuries? I am not. I think the soft underbelly is not new. I think we need our best 22 on the park or we stumble - after 5 years why is that stumble as apparent now as it was in the beginning? Or do you think it is just injuries and nothing more? Danny piss weak supporter. That's a very good post danny. Even without the rhyming and shit.

Author:	Tblues [ Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:48 pm ]
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Blueboy_Dan wrote: Heading to Europe for 2 months after the Hawks game so could not give a Ratts toss bag anymore. See what I did there, Ratts instead of rats, get it, get it? So am i actually im going after the cats game thank F*^K !!! We should really consider tanking again

Author:	Blue Vain [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:15 pm ]
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Thank god for you BM. It doesn't matter how desperate and dire the situation, I can always rely on you to direct the spotlight back to the most important and relevant person. You.