The fish STICKSrots from the head.

The funny thing about this post is the misconception about what Dick Pratt did. History as it happened has largely been rewritten (to a large extent on internet forums). When Pratt was asked (for the 5,000th time) for cash...he said he'd come back to the club in an official capacity if his leadership and ideas were implemented...not his cash.

Asked what personnel was needed - the list included a CEO and an elite sports science manager. The quote attributed to him "Always hire the best person for the job, not the best available. If they’re available they’re not the best"...doesn't necessarily ring true as Brian Cook and Dave Misson both rejected the move and second choice Swann and Cordy accepted on fantastic salaries. The Visy deal is great...but it comes with two board members (Ruffy and Jeannie), and I'm not au fait with what they bring to the table.

I knew today would happen too Keogh, so I threw some cash on the Crows winning +24.5...but that was based on stats (+ Crows numbers - they're good), players laziness over the last month and lack of versatility with the current list to match our opponent...

...answers don't come from a Dick Pratt type...they come from list depth, player leadership, coaching nous and wanting it bad enough...not everything is there at the moment...it can still be...but the old fish rotting from the head thing is old school and won't necessarily work with the processes (including Leading Teams) that have been put in place.

Change the mindset, change the routine, tinker with the game plan and put responsibility where responsibility should lie. Changing the President? I don't see how that alters anything.

Who is Adelaide's president?

Explain to me how Kernahan falling on his sword during the week and Ruffy Germinder or Jeannie Pratt being put in charge changes the way Bryce Gibbs plays? The President doesn't set the tone. Pratt didn't set the tone.

Explain to me how Kernahan falling on his sword during the week and Ruffy Germinder or Jeannie Pratt being put in charge changes the way Bryce Gibbs plays? The President doesn't set the tone. Pratt didn't set the tone.

I don't know the inner workings of the'board and club, but surely the admin we have now is better than the Smorgon/Collo days.

I realise we should always try for better, but let's hope that we don't get the same bananas back again.

Now I know I am being very unfair to Gibbs - he's just a kid playing football - but he needs a coach right now.

I disagree Doc

I think Carlton has a cultural problem, a problem of expectation

I think it believes success will come

the way Collingwood once thought - when i was kid and through my teens and twenties etc

Collingwood thought it would happen

that's us now

we think it will happen regardless.

We need a new head, new thoughts, new ideas.

We need to realize that success will not happen, we must make it happen.

Not we me, but we them - the club. All of them and for all of them to make it happen we need the head
and the ticker to do what is required.

I want to make a t-shirt that reads

If I hear 'we're Carlton !@#$%& the rest'
one more time
I'll buy a Collingwood membership!'

We should be saying

'We're Carlton we need to be better than the rest!'

None of this means anything except this

my brothers and I are getting older and do not go to the football as much anymore

and my son does not go - he lived through the 2000's why should he

where will the new passion come from?