Ok I'll start the misery
Con
Players fumbling ( including Judd on several occasions)
Players misjudging the ball
Tip rat kicking goals against us again
a.Joseph
Pros
D.ellard
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| Author: | Browndog [ Tue May 15, 2012 7:36 pm ] |
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Ok I'll start the misery Con Players fumbling ( including Judd on several occasions) Players misjudging the ball Tip rat kicking goals against us again a.Joseph Pros D.ellard |
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| Author: | Cazzesman [ Tue May 15, 2012 7:52 pm ] |
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Cons - 2nd to the footy - Completely reactive from the start - Letting good ordinary players from the Saints look like stars due to their hardness and work-rate - Forwards letting their defenders run up the ground unopposed was a disgrace. Jeffy that was your man time and again setting them up. - Everything else that @#$% up on the night. Pros - Duck egg from me. Regards Cazzesman |
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| Author: | The Normal One [ Tue May 15, 2012 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
David Ellard - Let off the leash and showed plenty, put the star players to shame with his efforts. |
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| Author: | 33mcconville [ Tue May 15, 2012 8:28 pm ] |
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PROS? It is only round 7 CONS? 60 hit outs to 25. 37 clearances to 42. Why play ruckmen if this happens or is there another reason? Reactive from the start. When we play well, we dictate the pressure and whilst I thought we did have forward line pressure in the first quarter, it did seem to dissipate. More inside 50's with an acceptable scoring rate. St. Kilda's was not. To me? It is all about the clearances/stoppages and we were appalling |
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| Author: | gerry atric [ Tue May 15, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
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CONS The expression "didn't turn up to play", what sort of excuse is that. How about we just admit we aren't tough enough, often enough, we lack a quality in and under and a key forward. We still expect Juddy to do it all jammo is looking like just a player Duigan looks slow AJ had a shocker JR has gone backwards Jeff G is struggling We dominate the rucks and lose the clearances Ratts explaining everything in numbers. He is not a banker explaining interest rates, he needs to explain things in human terms, show some genuine communication skills, and stop watching the game from the dugout. Take control, be pro active. Gibbs is very skilful and neat, but we need him to be a star, and he needs to be more Selwood and less Houla when the ball is in dispute PROS Ellard showed a bit more grunt than most others. |
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| Author: | Robert Heatley [ Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 pm ] |
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Pro How is this for sugar coating; Second to the ball A few players looked way off the pace We missed 8 goals that I could have kicked I reckon the Saints got every 50/50 decision on the night. Judd (but even he was fumbly at times), Ellard and Hampson were about the only contributors Poor night in the coaches box The opposition played as well as they possibly can play And We only lost by 20 odd points |
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| Author: | SurreyBlue [ Tue May 15, 2012 9:50 pm ] |
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Robert Heatley wrote: Pro How is this for sugar coating; Second to the ball A few players looked way off the pace We missed 8 goals that I could have kicked I reckon the Saints got every 50/50 decision on the night. Judd (but even he was fumbly at times), Ellard and Hampson were about the only contributors Poor night in the coaches box The opposition played as well as they possibly can play And We only lost by 20 odd points Pretty much summed it up actually. 
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| Author: | GWS [ Tue May 15, 2012 9:53 pm ] |
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SurreyBlue wrote: Robert Heatley wrote: Pro How is this for sugar coating; Second to the ball A few players looked way off the pace We missed 8 goals that I could have kicked I reckon the Saints got every 50/50 decision on the night. Judd (but even he was fumbly at times), Ellard and Hampson were about the only contributors Poor night in the coaches box The opposition played as well as they possibly can play And We only lost by 20 odd points Pretty much summed it up actually. Didn't you just write in another thread that this group can't win a premiership? 
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| Author: | SurreyBlue [ Tue May 15, 2012 9:57 pm ] |
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GWS wrote: SurreyBlue wrote: Robert Heatley wrote: Pro How is this for sugar coating; Second to the ball A few players looked way off the pace We missed 8 goals that I could have kicked I reckon the Saints got every 50/50 decision on the night. Judd (but even he was fumbly at times), Ellard and Hampson were about the only contributors Poor night in the coaches box The opposition played as well as they possibly can play And We only lost by 20 odd points Pretty much summed it up actually. Didn't you just write in another thread that this group can't win a premiership? ' Yep.  so now ignore the sugar coating comment and replace StKilda with any top 4 side. 
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| Author: | dannyboy [ Wed May 16, 2012 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
every team is going to come at us as hard as they can - 'throw the first punch' as it were. this is a con - we hate it. this is a pro - we will adapt to it or fall. |
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| Author: | Taff [ Wed May 16, 2012 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
dannyboy wrote: every team is going to come at us as hard as they can - 'throw the first punch' as it were. this is a con - we hate it. this is a pro - we will adapt to it or fall. Yes it will be interesting to see how we respond to that. Critical few weeks ahead for our coaching team. |
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| Author: | dannyboy [ Wed May 16, 2012 10:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
week 1: we give away a record number of 50's and still lose but pretend we are not soft. week 2: some players start to avoid looking in the eyes of Judd week 3: hopefully we begin to show a change week 4: see week 3 etc for rest of season - and yes I do not expect to win the flag this year. Because of this I wish we would drop the whole top 4 shit and concentrate on developing what we need to have a crack next year. |
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| Author: | redskins [ Wed May 16, 2012 10:21 am ] |
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Cons: we seem to have been worked out... Get extra numbers to the contest and clog it up..Bombers, GWS & Saints have done this... Blueprint on how to beat us has been seen by all pros: it's R7 and I am sure (hopeful) our staff is working on ways to beat this |
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| Author: | Adelaide Blue [ Wed May 16, 2012 10:39 am ] |
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Pro: Kreuzer's huge tackle in the forwardline |
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| Author: | Lowey_47 [ Wed May 16, 2012 10:43 am ] |
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Con: Stephen Milne likes to play on for a shot at goal from a dead ball situation. Repeat, Stephen Milne likes to play on from a dead ball situation... |
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| Author: | JohnM [ Wed May 16, 2012 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
Con: The entire game. Pro: Because it was Monday night, it ruined our working week and not our weekend. |
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Wed May 16, 2012 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
Con - still seething lazy unprofessional immature and if we dont get top 4 then we will look back on this Monday night and say why players dont seem to want it enough - same as Essendon* game but worse - symptomatic of this group see dogs game last year - see north game in 2010 still relying on Judd to carry us back in pack of also rans this group obviously like travelling interstate for finals because thats where they are headed after Monday night havent played well since Collingwood game kicking for goal - it has let us down for years didnt read danger signs from last weeks crappy performance against GWS wasted a monday night with that junk Pro -Im going away mid season and wont see us be intimidated by Hawks in a similar fashion as the last 5 years PEOPLE WILL NOW DISPENSE WITH THIS PREMIERSHIP FAVOURITE TOP 4 RUBBISH since the only decent team we have beat is Collingwood |
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| Author: | Megaman [ Wed May 16, 2012 12:59 pm ] |
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Taff wrote: dannyboy wrote: every team is going to come at us as hard as they can - 'throw the first punch' as it were. this is a con - we hate it. this is a pro - we will adapt to it or fall. Yes it will be interesting to see how we respond to that. Critical few weeks ahead for our coaching team. We haven't responded to it over the last few years, why would that change now? |
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| Author: | showbag [ Wed May 16, 2012 2:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
Pro We're 4th on the ladder Con We're 4th on the ladder |
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| Author: | Warby [ Wed May 16, 2012 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Round 7: pros and cons |
David Ellard shows how to go in and get the ball. When Jezza was Coach; his mantra was KISS (keep it simple stupid)....see Ellard above. |
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