Short of them pointing a gun ar your head, if you're going to use others as an excuse for your own behaviour, then you probably should re-evaluate your life.

We won't be kicking anyone to the curb if they show a willingness to engage in discussion, so long as they are reasonable and fair in their treatment of others.

Short of them pointing a gun ar your head, if you're going to use others as an excuse for your own behaviour, then you probably should re-evaluate your life.

We won't be kicking anyone to the curb if they show a willingness to engage in discussion, so long as they are reasonable and fair in their treatment of others.

You're clutching on straws if the foundation of your arguement is 'things can change'. I mean one could use your arguement to say a Hawthorn or Collingwood or Geelong are headed for disaster. More likely is the upward trend seen in the past few years, actually means something.

Judd super human effort?? Last thing I recall he was largely ineffective in the 2 finals in 2011 and we almost made it to the Prelim, and in 2012 Gibbs potentially could step up like MM did in 2011. Again, I think you're arguement is weak, and seems motivated more out of personal reasons, whatever they might be.


How have we planned to take the next step? well, for one we haven't traded too many early picks in recent years, so that tells me the club is courageous enough to keep thinking of the LT. At the same time we have been shrewd is shoring up deficiencies without selling the farm - laidler, duigan are good examples of this.The club's recruiting has been of a very high standard of late. Yes there are a few misses but no club has a 100% hit rate.

To look at stats is a pitfall is it? well I'd sooner use them as a guide than be totally airy fairy like you are.

Look Synbad I think it's important to be open minded about things and not be 100% positive just for the sake of it. I acknowledge the club have some challenges. We wouldn't be fifth best if there weren't some issues and challenges. I acknowledge our midfield need to get nastier to beat Hawthorn. I acknowledge we don't have a gun key fwd like Buddy and Cloke and this could be our downfall. I acknowledge WC have an edge over us in midfield because they have the best ruck combo at the mo and have a couple of clearance experts in Kerr and Priddis. These are in my view our two biggest challenges, along with making sure jamo and Waite and Krooz stay fit. But outside of these challenges, the reality is this team has been very consistent over the last few years, making the finals twice in two years, and the curve has been going upwards, and the list has a lot of room for natural improvement, which on the balance indicates we are going very well. As such I really think your constant negativity in here is out of kilter with reality and is actually tiresome and unecessary. I can only question your mental state, as you seem to be quite a frustrated person. Take a chill pill mate, it's not all that bad. for the first time in a decade a few media experts have tipped us for the Flag. You ought to enjoy it mate, while also being balanced and realistic about the challenges.

Weekend is here again...and still no premiership

That's a ridulous comment Jimmae. People make decisions about their own behaviour/actions, as a result of others behaviours, all of the time. If I go to a party & their is a dill mouthing off, speaking rubbish, talking over people, trying to be centre of attention, I will walk away & interact with people I actually like & respect.

Pull your head in!!!

Judd was not effective in the 2 finals.
But his presence drags players to him for attention.
This leads to someone else with less attention.

So more effective than YOU give him credit for.
Read the article in todays paper about the attention he gets

Your opinions of footy are way too simplistic.. if you think Judd wasnt effective.
Remember too.. w eplayed the reigning wooden spooners and Essendon*.

Free speech... frowned upon in this forum, apparently.

First time poster long time reader (only signed up yesterday lol).

Synbad offers the extremist views that typically sparks debate. Not to say he is always right, however it is contributions like his, that stir the pot/emotions/debate that makes this forum great. Who cares if he is right or wrong, but to my mind it is certainly better than reading 900 posts from 900 different users that say "carlton are the greatest, we are going to win the flag this year".

No football club is 100% perfect with their formula, some have done it better for sustained periods of time. But, at the end of the day, they rise and fall like history suggests, ebbs and flows. Albeit our club's fluctuations have been at the lower end of the scale for some time now, it fills me with pride that we are maintaining an improvement curve at the moment. So kudos to the board and coaching staff and off course the playing list.

A lot of this can (sorry synbad), be accredited to the recruitment staff and the direction implemented by the board. Do they have the formula right? Time will tell but certainly they are on the right track, because it has been a LONG time since I approached every week with a feeling we could/should win instead of how much we are going to get smashed by. Breeding a winning culture after so long in the football doldrums takes a long time to instill. It takes changes both on the list itself and higher up the management food chain. I firmly believe this started when Pratt came on board because he would not accept the then, status quo.

So as to Synbad's rhetoric about where we are at, good on him for being passionate enough about it to raise the thought processes. Maybe he remembers the feeling I did when our once mighty club could barely string 4 wins together in a year. I certainly don't want to see a return to those days. But one thing is for sure, we should utilise this time with Judd for all it is worth because it will be a time before another of his ilk graces the carlton corridors.

Any more flags yet?

Time won't stand still!!!!!

First time poster long time reader (only signed up yesterday lol).

Another paper thin arguement from talking synbad.
Geez Judd takes pressure off others bec he attracts attention. Geez I didn't know that. Thanks for the A1 lesson in football basics hahahaha
My God am I the only one whose finding coming to tc a waste of time lately? All I see is rants by talking synbad