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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:43 pm 
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This long running and embarrassing saga has finally drawn to a close. At last Jeannie can move on with her life. I understand that she has put massive energy into getting this squashed, so congrats to her and her remaining family. :-D


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6245189915

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:56 pm 
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This long running and embarrassing saga has finally drawn to a close. At last Jeannie can move on with her life. I understand that she has put massive energy into getting this squashed, so congrats to her and her remaining family. :-D


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6245189915



Do you think this is the end of it?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:05 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
BrizzyBlue wrote:
This long running and embarrassing saga has finally drawn to a close. At last Jeannie can move on with her life. I understand that she has put massive energy into getting this squashed, so congrats to her and her remaining family. :-D


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-n ... 6245189915



Do you think this is the end of it?


I think that it would be difficult to mount a successful appeal, considering that the Judge Paul Brereton, said that her claims weren't enforceable because she had already accepted a settlement. Stranger things have happened, but we will see. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:25 pm 
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It looks like the mistress took this action hoping the Family would roll over to avoid the publicity so good on them for standing up.

Given she'd signed an agreement in 2005 for $100,000, she had little really to stand on. Not very edifying claiming a handshake agreement with someone no longer alive.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:17 pm 
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What a whore.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:37 am 
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The other lady with Mr Pratts daughter is also having a crack at the estate.
This is just the start and far from the end.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:19 am 
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BrizzyBlue wrote:
Judge Paul Brereton

Never trust a Brereton. They're love the sound of their own voice and will say anything to make it heard.

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What a whore.


Yep, that was the arrangement.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:50 am 
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I won't be defending Richard Pratt simply because of his positive involvement with Carlton. As good a businessman as he was (or wasn't depending on how you view things), his extra-marital affairs have left a stain on the mans legacy far greater than the likes of Graeme Samuel ever could. So I wouldn't say it's great news for the Pratt family. Merely a reminder that long after you are dead, your actions while in the living can do monumental damage to those left behind.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:59 am 
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I won't be defending Richard Pratt simply because of his positive involvement with Carlton. As good a businessman as he was (or wasn't depending on how you view things), his extra-marital affairs have left a stain on the mans legacy far greater than the likes of Graeme Samuel ever could. So I wouldn't say it's great news for the Pratt family. Merely a reminder that long after you are dead, your actions while in the living can do monumental damage to those left behind.


I always thought that he and his wife had an arrangement. Not sure if true but I always had the impression that is just how it was.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:14 am 
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I won't be defending Richard Pratt simply because of his positive involvement with Carlton. As good a businessman as he was (or wasn't depending on how you view things), his extra-marital affairs have left a stain on the mans legacy far greater than the likes of Graeme Samuel ever could. So I wouldn't say it's great news for the Pratt family. Merely a reminder that long after you are dead, your actions while in the living can do monumental damage to those left behind.


I always thought that he and his wife had an arrangement. Not sure if true but I always had the impression that is just how it was.

correct, plus, um, [insert negative comment about someones appearance here]

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:54 am 
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Only relevance to Carlton is that Jeanne may have one less distraction while working with the club and improving our marketing practices. So on that basis it's a good thing. But otherwise, I don't really give a toss.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:32 am 
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Richard Pratt keeping a mistress is hardly a stain on his character, at least as far as I'm concerned. I'd say it's fairly standard practice amongst the rich and powerful, and almost commonplace amongst men who can afford it in places like France where the wife/mistress arrangement is well understood and accepted.

Assuming Jeannie knew about it (and I'd be amazed if she didn't) then there is absolutely no issue at all here.

It's just a pity he chose someone who wasn't discreet. That's when it gets messy. You really need to choose a nicer class of mistress than a stripper, or whatever she is.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:52 am 
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That he kept a mistress was well known. That he had a child with her was well known too....that he had more than a few on the go at the same time was less known - but the shock value in all this is how can a seemingly intelligent man leave such loose ends behind, knowing when the end would be? Arrangement with wife or not, his last few years has one positive and many large, unsavory negatives. Great man? Debatable.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:25 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
That he kept a mistress was well known. That he had a child with her was well known too....that he had more than a few on the go at the same time was less known - but the shock value in all this is how can a seemingly intelligent man leave such loose ends behind, knowing when the end would be? Arrangement with wife or not, his last few years has one positive and many large, unsavory negatives. Great man? Debatable.
indeed !

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During a week-long trial last year, the NSW Supreme Court heard stories about three-in-a-bed romps, trained assassins working as body guards, slush funds, drugs and a bitter feud between Ashton and another Pratt mistress, Shari-Lea Hitchcock.

http://www.smartcompany.com.au/entrepre ... point.html


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:39 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
That he kept a mistress was well known. That he had a child with her was well known too....that he had more than a few on the go at the same time was less known - but the shock value in all this is how can a seemingly intelligent man leave such loose ends behind, knowing when the end would be? Arrangement with wife or not, his last few years has one positive and many large, unsavory negatives. Great man? Debatable.


I think there's a very real difference between 'great' and 'good'.

Just because someone's personal moral code doesn't gel with yours, doesn't diminish their achievements. Personally, I think JFK was a deeply flawed person with a very questionable personal moral code. I also think he was a great man.

That doesn't make him a good husband, or a good role model on how best to conduct your personal life. Same goes for Richard Pratt, quite possibly.

Many men achieve greatness, without necessarily maintaining goodness. For me at least, they're entirely different concepts.

Pratt was no angel, but he did achieve a measure of greatness.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:06 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
That he kept a mistress was well known. That he had a child with her was well known too....that he had more than a few on the go at the same time was less known - but the shock value in all this is how can a seemingly intelligent man leave such loose ends behind, knowing when the end would be? Arrangement with wife or not, his last few years has one positive and many large, unsavory negatives. Great man? Debatable.


I think there's a very real difference between 'great' and 'good'.

Just because someone's personal moral code doesn't gel with yours, doesn't diminish their achievements. Personally, I think JFK was a deeply flawed person with a very questionable personal moral code. I also think he was a great man.

That doesn't make him a good husband, or a good role model on how best to conduct your personal life. Same goes for Richard Pratt, quite possibly.

Many men achieve greatness, without necessarily maintaining goodness. For me at least, they're entirely different concepts.

Pratt was no angel, but he did achieve a measure of greatness.


Agreed, just because you takeover from your dad a cardboard box/packing company and grow it into a large worldwide enterprise doesnt mean anything more than that you were good at building that company.

From another perspective though, I once read about a survey done at a uni where they asked people what the 1st consideration would be if they had the time, money, interest and opportunity to cheat on their partner. The findings were that for most of the women there was a wide range of responses ranging from the security of their household, what it would mean for their partner, how might it affect their kids etc etc etc For most of the blokes the answer was unanimous.....can i get away with it! Obviously Dick could and he did!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:34 pm 
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I wonder what your responses would have been had our laws of the time meant he served lengthy jail time and tougher penalties on his business? In essence, failed businessman, failed husband...(without discussing the philanthropic generosity because those funds are tainted). His achievements are severely diminished, and my opinions are no longer clouded by Carlton parochialism. Like Ned Kelly whom some consider a hero and others a cold-blooded murderer, Pratts legacy will forever have two opposing points of view.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
I wonder what your responses would have been had our laws of the time meant he served lengthy jail time and tougher penalties on his business? In essence, failed businessman, failed husband...(without discussing the philanthropic generosity because those funds are tainted). His achievements are severely diminished, and my opinions are no longer clouded by Carlton parochialism. Like Ned Kelly whom some consider a hero and others a cold-blooded murderer, Pratts legacy will forever have two opposing points of view.


Doc, you sure have a bee in your bonnet lately.
Drawing parallels between Pratt and Ned Kelly is ridicolous.
Get over it.


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