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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:46 am 
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Yeah nah !

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:41 am 
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Looks like he's calling Gibbsy a receiver.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:46 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:38 am 
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JohnM wrote:
Looks like he's calling Gibbsy a receiver.


I'd say he's calling Gibbsy a chucker.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:00 pm 
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ID SAY HE HAS NO IDEA -Judd sixth best player in the AFL :screwy:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:10 pm 
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I'm assuming this is the top 50 players of 2011? Rather than in general?

Riewoldt nowhere to be found.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:40 pm 
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Mike does not do this stuff to be 'right'

He does it to create discussion. Controversy. WEBSITE COMMENTS.

Means about as much as the McLelland Trophy.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:08 pm 
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It happens every single year...Mike puts out his top 50, people get pissed off. I'm sure the players couldn't give a rat's arse about it...I doubt they'd see it as a career highlight.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:11 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
Mike does not do this stuff to be 'right'

He does it to create discussion. Controversy. WEBSITE COMMENTS.


Means about as much as the McLelland Trophy.
Yep, very BOLTish is Mike - he sells papers


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:01 pm 
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Pendelbury ??????

What is he smoking ?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:57 pm 
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We have 5 players in there??? That's bullshit. We are a one-man team in Judd... :roll: :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:40 pm 
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We all know its bullshit, one man's opinion, and designed to create discussion and controversy. But I still find myself a little irritated and annoyed.

Mike's pre-season top 50 is speculative and a prediction of whom he expects will be the dominant players of the season ahead. His post-season top 50 however is his reading of the season just finished, and should be a more objective indicator of who actually performed best.

Judd at number 6 is plainly ridiculous, an insult. He's had a better season this year than in his Brownlow year, by all statistical measures and by virtue of the most important stats of all (which are never quoted) which are impact on games and degree of difficulty in doing so.

Three quarters of the paragraph on Judd in the HUN today was about his late season fade-out and his disappointing game against West Coast when he was unable to rise above the challenge of the Selwood tag. As if he needs to justify why Judd, clearly the best player in the AFL, was demoted to number 6.

I am still pissed off with Sheahan for his incredible disrespect towards Juddy after the 2010 Brownlow, when he led the charge by claiming that Judd was underserving and an umpires pet. There may be a few Brownlow medalists who have been undeserving over the years, (not many but a few), with Hardie, Wanganeen, and Woowodin topping the list. To disrespect one of the greatest players of all time in this manner was disgraceful. No apology from Sheahan was forthcoming, despite him being asked about this repeatedly on talk back radio and on TV (by Gerard Healy in particular). There was no acknowledgement from him that he might have been wrong, or that he had potentially tainted a player that by any measure could hold his own with any Brownlow medalist in history.

What's more, this diatribe and the discussion it generated, clearly made the umpires early in the season wary of giving Judd votes he deserved. The umpires are only human and did not want to be seen to be favouring the umpires pet. The umpires became less conscious of this late in the season when Judd picked up the majority of his votes. In my view his first half season was clearly better than his second half. There was also the clear implication that Swan was dudded, suggesting to the umpires that the tattooed bogan, a very good ordinary player, deserved to be compensated. Sheahan led the charge on this, and it had an impact.

I know I shouldnt even bother being annoyed, but I am.

Go F%$K yourself Sheahan. No class at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:15 pm 
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its become fashionable to criticise judd lately and to downplay his ability

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:20 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
its become fashionable to criticise judd lately and to downplay his ability
the growing 'hate' phenomenon


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:22 pm 
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something like that....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:37 pm 
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Juddy needs sleeve tatts so he looks like a flog.....I mean Guy Sebastian..... no I mean a gun like Swanny

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:50 pm 
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RickJ wrote:
We all know its bullshit, one man's opinion, and designed to create discussion and controversy. But I still find myself a little irritated and annoyed.

Mike's pre-season top 50 is speculative and a prediction of whom he expects will be the dominant players of the season ahead. His post-season top 50 however is his reading of the season just finished, and should be a more objective indicator of who actually performed best.

Judd at number 6 is plainly ridiculous, an insult. He's had a better season this year than in his Brownlow year, by all statistical measures and by virtue of the most important stats of all (which are never quoted) which are impact on games and degree of difficulty in doing so.

Three quarters of the paragraph on Judd in the HUN today was about his late season fade-out and his disappointing game against West Coast when he was unable to rise above the challenge of the Selwood tag. As if he needs to justify why Judd, clearly the best player in the AFL, was demoted to number 6.

I am still pissed off with Sheahan for his incredible disrespect towards Juddy after the 2010 Brownlow, when he led the charge by claiming that Judd was underserving and an umpires pet. There may be a few Brownlow medalists who have been undeserving over the years, (not many but a few), with Hardie, Wanganeen, and Woowodin topping the list. To disrespect one of the greatest players of all time in this manner was disgraceful. No apology from Sheahan was forthcoming, despite him being asked about this repeatedly on talk back radio and on TV (by Gerard Healy in particular). There was no acknowledgement from him that he might have been wrong, or that he had potentially tainted a player that by any measure could hold his own with any Brownlow medalist in history.

What's more, this diatribe and the discussion it generated, clearly made the umpires early in the season wary of giving Judd votes he deserved. The umpires are only human and did not want to be seen to be favouring the umpires pet. The umpires became less conscious of this late in the season when Judd picked up the majority of his votes. In my view his first half season was clearly better than his second half. There was also the clear implication that Swan was dudded, suggesting to the umpires that the tattooed bogan, a very good ordinary player, deserved to be compensated. Sheahan led the charge on this, and it had an impact.

I know I shouldnt even bother being annoyed, but I am.

Go F%$K yourself Sheahan. No class at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:40 pm 
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People still take Mike seriously? Not even he does anymore.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:49 am 
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Judd at number 6 is just plain wrong. He did have a quiet game against West Coast but should not have diminished the season he had. In my view he was the best player this year. Had the biggest impact on games. The media and the general public have a general dislike for Juddy, which I can't fathom. Compare this to the kudos that Ablett gets constantly. The tall poppy syndrome in this country still persists.


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