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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:32 am 
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/no-ratts-trap-as-carlton-coach-gets-contract-nod/story-e6frf9jf-1226081990555


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Looks like that's settled then... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:06 pm 
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I hope so! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:56 pm 
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Backpedaling.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:47 pm 
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Don't worry after today there will be plenty of talkback ferals calling for his head

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:35 pm 
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BlueMark wrote:
Don't worry after today there will be plenty of talkback ferals calling for his head



Well, if the club is fair dinkum, the theory should also work in reverse. There's still water to flow under the bridge, yet.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:20 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
BlueMark wrote:
Don't worry after today there will be plenty of talkback ferals calling for his head



Well, if the club is fair dinkum, the theory should also work in reverse. There's still water to flow under the bridge, yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:26 pm 
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The terms at the start of the year were made crystal clear. It was said that we needed to win a final.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:44 pm 
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so if we come say 6th and win a final and then lose ,to me its the same as comen 4th and going out in straight sets but comen 4th is a better year overall, ,means we won more games!


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:48 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
The terms at the start of the year were made crystal clear. It was said that we needed to win a final.


Far too prescriptive as Swann alluded to in the article. Context has to be considered.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:10 pm 
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Springsteen wrote:
so if we come say 6th and win a final and then lose ,to me its the same as comen 4th and going out in straight sets but comen 4th is a better year overall, ,means we won more games!


I would rather finish on 12 wins a win a final than win 15 games and go out in straight sets


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:22 pm 
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Gilly34 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
The terms at the start of the year were made crystal clear. It was said that we needed to win a final.


Far too prescriptive as Swann alluded to in the article. Context has to be considered.


Both Swann and Sticks were very clear. So clear in fact that most supporters and media commentators were somewhat taken aback at the directness of their comments.

My own opinion is that I hope a professional and fully informed decision by the board is taken, without personal allegiances being brought into it, when the season is finished and alternative options are on the table.


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 Post subject: Re: Ratts Future
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:42 pm 
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Traditionally we re-sign the coach on the back of a decent first half of the season, so that the coach can focus completely on dropping three quarters of the remaining matches to leave us all wondering why he has a shiney new two year contract.

Since we didn't re-sign Ratts two weeks ago, perhaps we really are persisting with this new fangled "set a KPI, complete season, compare ledger to KPI" approach. Seem crazy to me, but lets just see how it plays out.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:04 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:05 am 
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Rexy wrote:

My own opinion is that I hope a professional and fully informed decision by the board is taken, without personal allegiances being brought into it, when the season is finished and alternative options are on the table.


It was a pity that they didn't apply that principal when they appointed him in the first place


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Rexy wrote:
Gilly34 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
The terms at the start of the year were made crystal clear. It was said that we needed to win a final.


Far too prescriptive as Swann alluded to in the article. Context has to be considered.


Both Swann and Sticks were very clear. So clear in fact that most supporters and media commentators were somewhat taken aback at the directness of their comments.

My own opinion is that I hope a professional and fully informed decision by the board is taken, without personal allegiances being brought into it, when the season is finished and alternative options are on the table.


It's horses for courses


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:05 pm 
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marvelous, haven't been on for a month and what do I find, a thread on Ratts for a change :roll:

go ratts ... stick it up'em

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Go RATTS. :smile:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 pm 
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Care for a biscuit? Er.....Ratt, perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: Ratts Future
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:14 am 
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The article in the Age a few Fridays ago was very interesting.
Ratten's job has not changed in name. Head coach.
But his role has diminished. His deficincies as a Head Coach were highlighted. Sure he has improved as a Head Coach , but to me the involvement of Richardson and Brown has been a major factor in our improvement as a team.

I will always maintain that There are better coaches out there than Brett Ratten, but the club's review was excellent and the new appointments have made the biggest difference.

What has changed and will continue to evolve is the Head Coaches' role and the assistants.

Like a good marriage one has to compliment the other. Ratten has failings as a coach, but the assistants make up the slack.

Ironically it was Alan Richardson I wanted as a coach at the club. Kind of got my wish. The mix is right.

Just like Sticks deficincies are compensated by the Pratt presence.

If we win the 17th, I am sure a few of you posters will be asking me to say I was wrong.
To some degree yes, but some degree no.
Bottom line though is we seem to have the right mix at the moment


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