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Judd - Best in Brownlow history?
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Author:  aramari [ Tue May 31, 2011 4:17 pm ]
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As Juddy is being referred to in hushed tones in the media as one of the greatest ever, it's worth noting that he's arguably THE best poller on Brownlow night in VFL/AFL history.

- 162 career votes (11th overall)
- Averages 0.88 votes per H&A game (best since Bunton in the 30s)
- 185 H&A games prior to 2011 - 0.875 votes per game

-His 8 year stretch from 2003-2010 is comfortably the best run of Brownlow votes over an extended continuous number of years. 162 votes in 164 games! After his first season (in which he played 22 games with no votes), Judd has polled a vote per game!. BTW at Carlton Judd has polled 68 in 62 games (1.097/game).

-If you take the 7 years from 2004-2010 he's polled 150 votes in 142 games (1.056/game). Interestingly, Judd was aged 20-26 in this period, the same age range as Bunton's career.

You'd think that Judd's average votes/game will fall as his career winds down, but it might go up for a few years yet! If he polls 19 votes this year he'll pass Skilton to move to 4th on the all-time list or 3rd if you adjust Matthews' total downwards for the 76-77 anomaly.

Gary Dempsey scored 177.5 from 1970-80 in 224 games (0.794/game) and 216.5 from 70-83 in 289 (0.751) which are both impressive testament to playing at the highest level for a long time (again, adjusted 76-77 votes by dividing by 2).

Hayden Bunton Sr has the best career record at the Brownlow: 3 wins and 1.025 votes/game over his career. 122 in 117 games in his 7 year career at Fitzroy, Bunton is the only player to match Judd's Brownlow dominance. His votes were scored in 18 game seasons, so need to look at votes per game played rather than votes/season.

Most votes in consecutive seasons:

3 yrs 75 R. Harvey
4 yrs 91 R. Harvey
5 yrs 105 Judd
6 yrs 120 Judd
7 yrs 150 Judd
8 yrs 162 Judd
9 yrs 162 Judd
10 yrs 162.5 Dempsey
11 yrs 177.5 Dempsey
12 yrs 183.5 Dempsey
13 yrs 199.5 Dempsey
14 yrs 216.5 Dempsey

If he polls well this year, Judd will have caught Dempsey's best 12 year sequence in 9 years :donk:

24 votes will beat Harvey's best 3 yr and 4 year sequences. So a lot of geeky excitement riding on this year's Brownlow count...

BTW this is not exhaustive, if I've missed another player with a better record let us know

As they say, the umpire's always right :thanks: :thanks:
Author:  Warby [ Tue May 31, 2011 4:27 pm ]
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At least you could've supplied some stats......... :grin:
Author:  Spirit of Carlton [ Tue May 31, 2011 4:50 pm ]
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Brilliant post! :clap: :clap:
Author:  bluehammer [ Tue May 31, 2011 4:57 pm ]
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Still not as good as Dale Thomas
Author:  Warby [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:13 pm ]
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bluehammer wrote:
Still not as good as Dale Thomas


Yeah....but who is?
Author:  seanpb [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:20 pm ]
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No Doubting Thomas.

(Seriously, couldn't the various media outlets covering his greatness have each come up with different headlines?)
Author:  blue in the face [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:21 pm ]
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Great post! Really interesting.
Author:  Sugarcane [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:29 pm ]
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Selwood is his biggest threat this year
With Ablett Jnr gone, I think Selwood stands the biggest chance of getting 3 vote games from the umps
And he ducks for frees all the time so the umps clearly love him
Author:  aramari [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:44 pm ]
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Sugarcane wrote:
Selwood is his biggest threat this year
With Ablett Jnr gone, I think Selwood stands the biggest chance of getting 3 vote games from the umps
And he ducks for frees all the time so the umps clearly love him


Agree that Selwood is probably the man this year, Already a proven votegetter- matchwinner inside with enough outside brilliance to not be pigeonholed as a grunt.

But it's not about wins, dammit. it's about being Chas Judd.
Author:  Warby [ Tue May 31, 2011 5:54 pm ]
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....and Chris Judd as well......... :grin:
Author:  aramari [ Tue May 31, 2011 6:24 pm ]
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Warby wrote:
....and Chris Judd as well......... :grin:


Chas as in Chas. Brownlow :smoking:
Author:  aramari [ Tue May 31, 2011 6:39 pm ]
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Sugarcane wrote:
Selwood is his biggest threat this year
With Ablett Jnr gone, I think Selwood stands the biggest chance of getting 3 vote games from the umps
And he ducks for frees all the time so the umps clearly love him


BTW Selwood has 57 votes in 4 seasons, one more than Juddy :eek:
Author:  aerodyte [ Tue May 31, 2011 7:10 pm ]
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Sugarcane wrote:
Selwood is his biggest threat this year
With Ablett Jnr gone, I think Selwood stands the biggest chance of getting 3 vote games from the umps
And he ducks for frees all the time so the umps clearly love him


Disagree, Judd's biggest threat is Murphy
Author:  Navy Blue Horse [ Tue May 31, 2011 8:45 pm ]
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I backed Murphy at 30-1 several weeks ago
Author:  isdonis.george [ Tue May 31, 2011 8:47 pm ]
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Stevie J is going OK
Author:  Bomba Sheldon [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:11 pm ]
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Juddy will be when he wins his 4th Brownlow in a few years time
Author:  Spirit of Carlton [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:27 pm ]
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Hopefully the Judds' Obstetrician has a sense of humour and says to the happy couple after the birth - "That was a great birth, I will give it three votes".
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:01 pm ]
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Hopefully he says 'Congratulations on your perfectly healthy baby boy'.
Author:  Spirit of Carlton [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:35 pm ]
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Wonder if he would take after dad and drink from two bottles at the same time?
Author:  aramari [ Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Hopefully he says 'Congratulations on your perfectly healthy baby boys'.


edited for wishful thinking
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