TalkingCarlton :: View topic - Greg Williams on Brett Ratten

But even before last night's breakthrough result, Williams saved his most resounding vote of confidence for the man steering the ship - and the man who ended up directing the removal of a big monkey from a proud club's back.
''I'm a big believer in Ratten,'' Williams said. ''In the nicest way, Carlton supporters need to have a good look at themselves I reckon. I really think there's some disrespect from some of the supporter base, and from some media as well, but it's mainly the supporter base.
''Ratts isn't from anywhere else, he's a Carlton person. There's no one more Carlton than him and no one wants to win more games than him … and he's definitely a good coach. I really think he has done a great job. They're gradually going up the ladder, he's taken a team that was the worst Carlton team ever to a position where we've improved and it's a bloody hard competition.''

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Terrifc points from Diesel prior to the Swans game :clap:

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But even before last night's breakthrough result, Williams saved his most resounding vote of confidence for the man steering the ship - and the man who ended up directing the removal of a big monkey from a proud club's back.
''I'm a big believer in Ratten,'' Williams said. ''In the nicest way, Carlton supporters need to have a good look at themselves I reckon. I really think there's some disrespect from some of the supporter base, and from some media as well, but it's mainly the supporter base.
''Ratts isn't from anywhere else, he's a Carlton person. There's no one more Carlton than him and no one wants to win more games than him … and he's definitely a good coach. I really think he has done a great job. They're gradually going up the ladder, he's taken a team that was the worst Carlton team ever to a position where we've improved and it's a bloody hard competition.''
I think Williams has been reading TC!

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That was a good read.

Williams was an amazing player and I think many forget just how good he really was.

Pretty disappointed last night on Channel 10 when at HT, Diesel confirmed that he barracks for Sydney and Carlton 50/50.

So if the fans are being hard on Ratts is because we are fed up - You have got the players produce the goods I say

Sydney Blue wrote:

So if the fans are being hard on Ratts is because we are fed up - You have got the players produce the goods I say

Yes but when a large number of these players came together they were, young, skinny, not AFL fit and they did not have the AFL resilience to play 22 hard faught games.

Previous Premiership teams have travelled the long road with a long term plan. We are no different.

Regards Cazzesman

Disagree Blueman. He will be our next premiership coach!

Author:	london blue [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:13 pm ]
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Terrifc points from Diesel prior to the Swans game Quote: But even before last night's breakthrough result, Williams saved his most resounding vote of confidence for the man steering the ship - and the man who ended up directing the removal of a big monkey from a proud club's back. ''I'm a big believer in Ratten,'' Williams said. ''In the nicest way, Carlton supporters need to have a good look at themselves I reckon. I really think there's some disrespect from some of the supporter base, and from some media as well, but it's mainly the supporter base. ''Ratts isn't from anywhere else, he's a Carlton person. There's no one more Carlton than him and no one wants to win more games than him … and he's definitely a good coach. I really think he has done a great job. They're gradually going up the ladder, he's taken a team that was the worst Carlton team ever to a position where we've improved and it's a bloody hard competition.'' Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/w ... z1KzKX2JXC

Author:	TruBlueBrad [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:01 pm ]
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That was a good read. Williams was an amazing player and I think many forget just how good he really was.

Author:	true_blue3 [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:16 pm ]
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Heard ratts return the favour on sen earlier today saying judd was up there with him as the best player hes ever seen

Author:	kezza [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:03 pm ]
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london blue wrote: Terrifc points from Diesel prior to the Swans game Quote: But even before last night's breakthrough result, Williams saved his most resounding vote of confidence for the man steering the ship - and the man who ended up directing the removal of a big monkey from a proud club's back. ''I'm a big believer in Ratten,'' Williams said. ''In the nicest way, Carlton supporters need to have a good look at themselves I reckon. I really think there's some disrespect from some of the supporter base, and from some media as well, but it's mainly the supporter base. ''Ratts isn't from anywhere else, he's a Carlton person. There's no one more Carlton than him and no one wants to win more games than him … and he's definitely a good coach. I really think he has done a great job. They're gradually going up the ladder, he's taken a team that was the worst Carlton team ever to a position where we've improved and it's a bloody hard competition.'' I think Williams has been reading TC! Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/w ... z1KzKX2JXC I think Williams has been reading TC!

Author:	GWS [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:09 pm ]
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TruBlueBrad wrote: That was a good read. Williams was an amazing player and I think many forget just how good he really was. Who forgets? Not my favourite Carlton player but without doubt the best I've seen (apologies to Johnston and Doull).

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Author:	GAVROMAN [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:14 pm ]
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Pretty disappointed last night on Channel 10 when at HT, Diesel confirmed that he barracks for Sydney and Carlton 50/50.

Author:	Wet Willie [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:17 pm ]
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Why?? He spent six years at each team & won a Brownlow at both!!

Author:	Dominator_7 [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:25 pm ]
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GAVROMAN wrote: Pretty disappointed last night on Channel 10 when at HT, Diesel confirmed that he barracks for Sydney and Carlton 50/50. He had to say that as he was up there as a guest of Sydney's as part of their Hall of Fame celebrations. It's well known that Diesel is a Blues man through and through and attends most of the matches.

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:29 pm ]
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What Diesel needs to realise is that Carlton fans are sick and tired of the team being shit we have had 10 years of some of the most insipid football being played in the carlton jumper when you have a group of fans that saw 8 flags and 11 grand final apperances in 27 years it is a little hard to stomach 10 years at the bottom with 3 spoons So if the fans are being hard on Ratts is because we are fed up - You have got the players produce the goods I say

Author:	SHHH! [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:02 pm ]
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GAVROMAN wrote: Pretty disappointed last night on Channel 10 when at HT, Diesel confirmed that he barracks for Sydney and Carlton 50/50. Deisel WAS in Sydney to attend the SWANS HALL OF FAME night. He is a BLUE if you ask him any other time. Read the paper ttoday. States the same thing.

Author:	Bomba Sheldon [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:04 pm ]
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Diesel's blue, through and through

Author:	Cazzesman [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:07 pm ]
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Sydney Blue wrote: So if the fans are being hard on Ratts is because we are fed up - You have got the players produce the goods I say Yes but when a large number of these players came together they were, young, skinny, not AFL fit and they did not have the AFL resilience to play 22 hard faught games. Previous Premiership teams have travelled the long road with a long term plan. We are no different. Regards Cazzesman

Author:	Sydney Blue [ Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:36 pm ]
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Cazzesman wrote: Sydney Blue wrote: So if the fans are being hard on Ratts is because we are fed up - You have got the players produce the goods I say Yes but when a large number of these players came together they were, young, skinny, not AFL fit and they did not have the AFL resilience to play 22 hard faught games. Previous Premiership teams have travelled the long road with a long term plan. We are no different. Regards Cazzesman I realise this but we are an impatient lot -the fade out last year was a tad disappointing - There is no question we are miles ahead of where we were when Ratts took over - It still doesnt stop us from becoming frustrated with some of the teams perfomances - We Carlton supporters we expect success if we didnt we would probably follow Richmond or footscray where they are satified with the team trying hard but not quite getting there And at Carlton we love nothing better than a Coach linching

Author:	blueman [ Sun May 01, 2011 8:50 am ]
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They will end up being rather ruthless to Ratten

Author:	teknodeejay [ Sun May 01, 2011 4:05 pm ]
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I've been a critic of whether Ratten is the right man, that's for sure. Sydney on Friday night was a very good coaching performance by the man. Probably his best of the year. He is lucky he has a super human player in Judd out on the ground. He did appear to coach very well. His gameplan wasnt working in the first half and instead of being stubborn he made some crucial changes. Armfield on the ground was at exactly the required time. Got to love Army. I still think the jury is out until September time Carlton have hit the finals before. It's about what we do when we get there. Carlton are good enough to push for a Preliminary final if their form is right. In the short term, they simply must smash a flat St Kilda and then they are a chance against Geelong after the break. Win or lose against the Cats, the run into Round 16 of the season is laced with winnable games. Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Brisbane, Sydney, West Coast, Richmond, Western Bulldogs. If we're any good we should win all seven of those with questions marks over Sydney and WB (who I dont rate), and then come up against Collingwood once again. At worst Carlton should be 11-4-1 at the end of Round 16. The last 7 games include some tougher encounters - Essendon*, Hawthorn and Freo away are in there. 14 wins wont be enough for top 4. That means they will need to win probably three games out of Geelong, Sydney, Bulldogs, Bombers, Dockers and Hawks without dropping the other easier-beats. But of course anything could happen. Ratten probably has a B+ on his report card so far for 2011, this is certainly a tense and exciting season for the Navy Blue!!

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Author:	SurreyBlue [ Sun May 01, 2011 9:12 am ]
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Disagree Blueman. He will be our next premiership coach!

Author:	Kaptain Kouta [ Sun May 01, 2011 9:18 am ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Disagree Blueman. He will be our next premiership coach! He didn't specify when. That's the secret of the prognosticator. Say something which seems specific on the surface, but is actually vague enough to mean almost anything.

Author:	cimm1979 [ Sun May 01, 2011 11:07 am ]
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Scotto on before the game was asked about Ratten and he basically said "he's getting better as a coach" . That's not a response you hear made by senior players about their coach very often. He then mentioned the impact Brown and Richardson have made and that the group (players and coaches) were improving together. He sounded, to me at least, quite proud of the groups improvements. I've been unconvinced by Ratts because I just didn't think he had the presence or confidence to bring in an effective style of play, but Scotto's answers seem to suggest there is a level of solidarity in the playing and coaching group that has not existed before. It was quite heartening.

Author:	Northern Blue [ Sun May 01, 2011 11:12 am ]
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SurreyBlue wrote: Disagree Blueman. He will be our next premiership coach! Hope so. He is a Carlton man through and through. Loved his emotion on Friday night. he has taken us from the cellar and we are only a few stops from the penthouse.

Author:	blueman [ Sun May 01, 2011 2:56 pm ]
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I would like to see Brett Ratten as the next premiership coach too. But I think that there will be a sudden and unexpected turn of events that prevents this from occurring. As the one that did a lot of the work to get them to where they are and the fact that he is a true Carlton man - it is only fair that Ratten enjoys the fruits of success. But as we know, judgement of things in football are often quite arbitrary and can appear to be extremely unfair. The discussion and comment that flows from these situations can result in diametrically opposed opinions and views. It is of course is a lot of the reason why sites this this one are in existence.