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| Author: | buzzaaaah [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
I have had my doubts about eddie since 2009. In hindsight I was too late. Too many times in the big games he goes missing and by missing I mean invisible. He squibed 2 marks which could have both cost goals. He was a liabilty in a game where 43 players were haveing a red hot go. He is a weak link and is dragging the team down. He has a lot of talent but he has been in the system ?7-8 years. Is he going to improve? Can we afford to carry him for the odd game when he decides to turn it on? I hope he goes back to the bullants till he shows the intensity and dedication required for senior football. He shouldn't be handed a game based on talents he doesnt show often enough. |
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| Author: | Juzzy [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
Betts won't be dropped. Because even playing poorly he takes a defender off Jeff |
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| Author: | dane [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
I really wish I hadn't been threatened with a permanent ban. This thread and ryan2000 would be in the crosshairs. ADD Caufieldrover. But really that's a given. |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
let it rip dane - if you can lay it out within the guidelines why not? |
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| Author: | bluegirl72 [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
Would like to see the stats on eddie in big games. If they have aports pyschologist at PP I hope they strongly recommendhe attend a few 'brainwashing' sessions. |
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| Author: | dane [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
grrofunger wrote: let it rip dane - if you can lay it out within the guidelines why not? The limited understanding of football and pot shotting of our players on this forum is completely bewildering. FFS how much better did we look this time than the last two times we played them?! We are building our confidence and game plan and will surprise alot of people this year. Just give it time. |
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
dane wrote: grrofunger wrote: let it rip dane - if you can lay it out within the guidelines why not? The limited understanding of football and pot shotting of our players on this forum is completely bewildering. FFS how much better did we look this time than the last two times we played them?! We are building our confidence and game plan and will surprise alot of people this year. Just give it time. Yes, correct. But you haven't addressed Betts inability to perform on the big stage. |
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| Author: | dane [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
Sorry have been reading pros and cons thread. Eddie is really playing second fiddle to Jeffy at the moment. I suspect when teams start tagging Jeffy, Betts will step up again. I think Betts work off the ball is massively underrated. |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
All the more reason to target Saad. Eddie needs a rocket, but at least he's running hard. It should come. |
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| Author: | blue4 [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
dane wrote: Sorry have been reading pros and cons thread. Eddie is really playing second fiddle to Jeffy at the moment. I suspect when teams start tagging Jeffy, Betts will step up again. I think Betts work off the ball is massively underrated. The reason why Betts goes missing in big games - is still unadressed. |
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| Author: | Sugarcane [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
8 touches last night and 8 last week against GOLD COAST says it all Has been poor since signing his big contract last year, his second half on 2010 was poor and his form hasn't improved Needs to be dropped like St.K dropped Del santo etc |
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| Author: | amazonstud [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
I think Eddie's form will change when we actually get another tall forward who can run in the set up. A 173 cm full forward playing against a 188cm backman and we bomb it onto his head and expect him to outmark them. That may be becuase of the Collingwood pressure but his best chance would have been to outsprinnt them running back towards goal but that wasn't the way the ball was delivered. He is a forward pocket goal sneak not a key position player. Add Kreuzer and Henderson to the forward set up and let them go for those marks them see how Eddie goes. |
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| Author: | buzzaaaah [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
amazonstud wrote: I think Eddie's form will change when we actually get another tall forward who can run in the set up. A 173 cm full forward playing against a 188cm backman and we bomb it onto his head and expect him to outmark them. That may be becuase of the Collingwood pressure but his best chance would have been to outsprinnt them running back towards goal but that wasn't the way the ball was delivered. He is a forward pocket goal sneak not a key position player. Add Kreuzer and Henderson to the forward set up and let them go for those marks them see how Eddie goes. So its the team's fault. We need to stop makeing excuses for the guy. He needs to be accountable. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
2 goals a game this year JUST ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH! He should be kicking 6 goals a game. Or more. |
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| Author: | blue4 [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
Or finding as much as the ball as Mitch Robinson... I'll allow minus 20% variance and Mitch still is in front by 100%. For a player that gets paid $350k per year we are not asking............ |
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| Author: | Juzzy [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
^ 6? You really think that's adequate for a small forward? we need at least 10-12 a game from Eddie to win a premiership. |
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| Author: | blueboys101 [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
are we watching the same game of football DANE betts was shit, squibbed 2 marks last night, and i can understand him taking a good opponent which helps garlett but he always lets us down when we play top 4 teams and junk time goals |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
blueboys101 wrote: are we watching the same game of football DANE betts was shit, squibbed 2 marks last night, and i can understand him taking a good opponent which helps garlett but he always lets us down when we play top 4 teams and junk time goals Break it down for us: what quarters, or who was involved. Some of us attended the match so we occasionally miss things when there's a lot of players around the ball. |
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| Author: | seanpb [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
I thought we should have explored options for a trade at seasons end last year. He was disappointing last night, but his best is very good. |
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| Author: | 99prelim [ Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eddie betts ?the next Leon Davis |
Navy Blue Horse wrote: dane wrote: grrofunger wrote: let it rip dane - if you can lay it out within the guidelines why not? The limited understanding of football and pot shotting of our players on this forum is completely bewildering. FFS how much better did we look this time than the last two times we played them?! We are building our confidence and game plan and will surprise alot of people this year. Just give it time. Yes, correct. But you haven't addressed Betts inability to perform on the big stage. EXACTLY. He is a junktime specialist. To add a positive spin to this, give him 3 weeks as a bonafide member of the mid rotations as the outside mid (possibly wing). then reasses. needs some confidence to shake off the tag |
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