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Author:  Donstuie [ Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  No blues at the Blues

Ratts fires back

Of course there will still be some who don't believe a word of it.

Author:  camel [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

He's hardly going to acknowledge any morale problems, if there are any - but it's still good to see him out on the front foot all the same. :thumbsup:

Author:  Juddment Day [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

big year for rattz and new co

the excuses are gawwwwwnnnnnnn

im pumpd - hope we recruit KPB KPB :)

Author:  DocSherrin III [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

Had to chuckle at this line...

TheHUN wrote:
The Blues asked for a pick from between 0-20 for Walker and didn't receive an offer.


Thought at least one club would have offered pick 0... :roll:

Author:  BigBlueWave [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

As far as I am concerned ... Ratts does not need any excuses ... he has done an excellent job.

Author:  isdonis.george [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

It's good all round that a few players have been able to assess their worth on the trade market.

Now it's back to business.

Author:  cimm1979 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

.

The only evidence the article has is players seeking to leave or the club testing the water.

No direct quotes from disgruntled current or former players or coaches, and there's no shortage of people who'd have an opportunity to give us a bake.



I'm not convinced of Rattens capabilities, if I had to make a call I'm leaning towrds the negative with him, but he certainly looked better when he moved to the players bench. If we loook anything like we did during that mid season slump next year, I'd say he's history

Author:  Megaman [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:07 am ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
Had to chuckle at this line...

TheHUN wrote:
The Blues asked for a pick from between 0-20 for Walker and didn't receive an offer.


Thought at least one club would have offered pick 0... :roll:

Looks like that was most club's offer..

Author:  17th Premiership [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

If he moves Walker to the midfield we will be a better team.
If he moves Gibbs to midfield, we'll be a better team. (Although I can understand his desire to have Gibbs in that 'quarterback' position too. If the model is Hodge and Goddard, I think that's good but both of them spend plenty of time on the ball as well. Probably more time on the ball.

Ratts on the bench was a good move but surely whether we play well (1st half of season) or poorly (form slump) does not depend on whether Ratts sits up in the box or down on the bench. If that's the case, we should simply build a side shed on the boundary where all the players mommies can sit and give them approving or disapproving looks, hugs, hair ruffles and can reposition their carefully 'messy' hair with their spit. I am happy with Ratts down there to eyeball the players from time to time but if that's a determinant of how our players carry themselves on the field, then we have got much bigger problems than Ratts!

Devise a solid game plan and strategy.
Make sure it is a good one. And we have good backups too.
Ensure all the players know and understand theirs (and others') roles and can play several of them.
Ensure all the players have the tools (skills, practise etc...) to execute those roles.
Put the best players in the most important positions.
Win.

Author:  moshe25 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
Had to chuckle at this line...

TheHUN wrote:
The Blues asked for a pick from between 0-20 for Walker and didn't receive an offer.


Thought at least one club would have offered pick 0... :roll:


They all did......

Author:  Stefchook [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

camelboy wrote:
He's hardly going to acknowledge any morale problems, if there are any - but it's still good to see him out on the front foot all the same. :thumbsup:


Exactly. Regardless of whether there's morale problems or not, this is simply the coach offering the required PR.

Author:  limestone [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

clubs are definetly happier using the draft than to trade, which in our case will make walks , thornton etc nuckle down and get on with it or they will play no where. Iam estatic walks is staying , as my 8 year old daughter has the NO 1 . The problem with the trading system is that the clubs are now too frightened to be seen to do deals that dont favour their club massively, public perseption.

Author:  blue4 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:24 pm ]
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Brennan goes for top 10 pick and best we could get for Walker is 34.

Don't get me started on Tambling & Sherman.... Walker will be warming the bench alot this season and will be our supersub most weeks.

Author:  limestone [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

being contracted scares the clubs away, too hard , too much to lose. How about we all give him a go now, he is OUR player, unless we all can do better than walks can ??? I know I cant

Author:  molly23 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

camelboy wrote:
He's hardly going to acknowledge any morale problems, if there are any - but it's still good to see him out on the front foot all the same. :thumbsup:


ratten talks too much he tries to put a spin on everything and to me he sounds like a goose most times-dont complain and dont explain

Author:  RickJ [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

blue4 wrote:
Brennan goes for top 10 pick and best we could get for Walker is 34.

Don't get me started on Tambling & Sherman.... Walker will be warming the bench alot this season and will be our supersub most weeks.


I'm happy we kept Walker. Convinced that if he can stay injury free and rotate through the midfield and play with crunch and dash that he will be a very useful player in 2011.

However the reality that most clubs are aware of is that if he does his shoulder one more time his career is OVER. Enough to scare most clubs away.

Author:  dannyboy [ Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

molly23 wrote:
camelboy wrote:
He's hardly going to acknowledge any morale problems, if there are any - but it's still good to see him out on the front foot all the same. :thumbsup:


ratten talks too much he tries to put a spin on everything and to me he sounds like a goose most times-dont complain and dont explain



so people can then call him a goose for not explaining what's going on?

Author:  molly23 [ Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

dannyboy wrote:
molly23 wrote:
camelboy wrote:
He's hardly going to acknowledge any morale problems, if there are any - but it's still good to see him out on the front foot all the same. :thumbsup:


ratten talks too much he tries to put a spin on everything and to me he sounds like a goose most times-dont complain and dont explain



so people can then call him a goose for not explaining what's going on?

why does he have to explain anything to anyone? exceptions are obviously the players and people within the club

Author:  jim [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

blue4 wrote:
Brennan goes for top 10 pick and best we could get for Walker is 34.

Don't get me started on Tambling & Sherman.... Walker will be warming the bench alot this season and will be our supersub most weeks.



Well, have a think in less simple terms. What club Brennan was going to and the spare picks they have compared to the availability of picks Walker's suitors had? Clubs are not going to give away a first rounder easily. They are most reluctant to do that (as we should've been with pick 11 last year). Port's first pick was 16 and understandably wanted to keep it. No "Compo" picks so the next was 34. Carlton drove a hard bargain with the Crows as he was contracted, as they should, they weren't giving up anything early. Unlike Tambling, who is crap so worth going cheap, Walker's worthwhile. It's something big or we happily keep him. I'm sure the Crows would've taken Walker instead of Tambling if all they had to pay was pick 29 plus a late pick. Who wouldn't.

Author:  tap in 79 [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: No blues at the Blues

In 2005, Collingwood tanked and came 2nd last - obtained picks 2 and 5 - and the rest is history
In 2010, Collingwood won the flag

In 2005, Carlton came last.....
In 2010, Carlton scraped into the finals, lost their one finals match and came 8th
In 2011, Carlton will be expected to win finals matches and finish higher than 8th...otherwise there will be a lot of upset people and there will be blues at the Blues.

A tale of two teams.

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