not sure if there is another tread but iam bored, so here it is for me,

armfield jamison white
russell waston drummond
simpson gibbs lucas
yarran waite murphy
gartlett henderson t.lynch

kreuzer judd mclean

anyone from; warnock carrazzo scotland davies betts bower robinson ellard joseph

would love to get drummond to play half back flank to free up gibbs.
waston for a key defender, which is what we need.
t.lynch for a tall/medium forward which we need.

forgot to add chris knights, half forward flank, with murphy going into the middle and mclean on the pine

wow, this idea could be so much fun. I'm gonna save it for the holidays.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Dont really think we need a medium forward.

Id be comfortable with Houilhan, Walker or Yarran in that role (Yarran is way bigger than Betts and Garlett and i think should be regarded as medium sized).

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Carlton Premiers '10

McPharlin Scarlett Hodge
Enright Taylor Russell
Simpson Ablett Swann
Selwood Pavlich Stokes
Milne Riewoldt Riewoldt
Sandilands Judd Murphy

IC. Mumford Goodes Hayes Montagna

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Ellard?

Even in fantasy land, nobody will trade for Jordan Russell.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

What the... NO WIGGINS??

Other than that, cannot fault!

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YARRAN!!





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Are Stokes' mates rates too good to pass up

12 young up and comers, the future: Davies, Lucas, Tuohy, Jacobs, Anderson, Ellard, Garlett, Yarran, Grigg, Henderson, Warnock, White

10 safe: Russell, Joseph, Armfield, Judd, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Murphy, Simpson, Jamison, Bower
4 peaking or peaked but safe: Betts, Houlihan, Scotland, Carazzo
11 question marks (if not already gone): Johnson, Hadley, Browne, Fisher, oHailpin, Walker, Hampson*, Wiggins, Thornton, Tiller, McLean
4 unknowns: Kerr, Robinson (harsh but not sure of his footy smarts long-term), Austin and O'Keefe (too injury prone?)

* The athlete to footballer (Frankenstein) experiment: have to question whether Hampson, like ohailpin, can get to the type of footballer we need him to be. Positioning, reading play etc., proving more diffcult than first thought. I reckon the ‘Frankenstein’ experiment days are over. Hampson might be traded IMO as much as I'd like him to work.

Backline. Trading is needed here. Don't know who. Some big decisions about down back. Russell safe, Joseph a lot of upside, Armfield tick. But what do you do with quite a few similar players who aren’t quite tall enough for the tallest forwards? Bower, Jammo, Thornton, White, Austin?

Looking through the list I commend ratten for getting most of them on the park this year to have a look at them and see if they can handle it.

So:
Joseph Jammo Davies
Russell Bower Armfield
Simpson Gibbs Lucas
Scotland Henderson Garlett
Yarran Waite Kreuzer

Warnock Judd murphy

I/C Grigg Jacobs Betts Carazzo

Sorry to Ellard, Houlihan, McLean, White

Make sure you save some trades for near the end of the season when the DT finals start.

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Not bad, but I'd swap these two around, so forward line would be Milne Riewoldt Riewoldt.

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After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

Touhy Miller Russell
Yarran Bower O'Keefe
Gibbs Judd Simpson
Knights Henderson Kerr
Garlett Kruezer Waite
Warnock Salopek Murphy
Ellard Walker Lucas White

Others: Scotland Austin Casboult Anderson Davies Carrazzo Grigg Betts Armfield AJ Robinson

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Roll that back six out on game day and we'll all need psychologists, nevermind Ratts' mental state.

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armfield jamison bower
russell trade1 scotland
simpson gibbs grigg
yarran kreuzer betts
garlett waite henderson
warnock judd murphy

sauce lucas trade2[mid sized utility] trade3[hard nut]

T Lynch is not a medium fwd......196+

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I see you watching me watching you.

Yet you don't explain your reasoning or suggest a better option?

My reasoning is as follows:

Trading will be extremely hard and we will have late picks so for many improvements we will have to look within.

We desperately need a big bodied key defender and some more mature bodies through the midfield with very good kicking ability and decision making.

I am hoping we are agressive and trade Hampson or Jacobs, Thornton and maybe our first or second round picks and get guys like Salopek and Knights. Jackson Trengrove would be good but highly unlikely.

Therefore I have suggested Brad Miller as he is 27, big bodied and is very good one on one with guys like Hall, Pavlich, Brown etc. We would also get him for nothing!

I have been to about 10 Bullants games this year and numerous training sessions and for me Touhy has been a standout. His improvement has been amazing. He is a bigger body, quick and his a very veyr good kick of the ball. Will never shy form a job or contest either. We struggled in this role and I back Touhy to step up in 2011. Ellard is also an option in that role.

Russell picks himself and I have White on the bench as a back up defender who can also play forward. We also are flexible with Hendo and Waite able to go back if really needed. Walker on the bench is also another option.

Bower is a good footballer who has had a bad year ruined by injury and confidence. I expect him to bounce back. Hopefully Austin will step up as he is a bigger body but also a better kick.

The flankers I have Yarran and O'Keefe. The key to the good sides is run out of defence and good use of the ball. That is where we have struggled. Yarran is all class but needs to become more consistent and playing off HB will help that. Developing as a small forward will limit him. He can run and carry, use his pace and his kicking inside our 50 should create opportunities. He can also push forward at times to add a spark. Easier to do when he has been in the game already. I believe it will make him as a player.

O'Keefe needs to get fit but if he can ( and he is already training hard) he would make a huge difference. Big bodied, hard at it and one of the best kicks I have seen. On his left he can hit targets over 50m and gets the ball there quickly with penetration. Big call for a kid yet to debut but I have high hopes. Anderson may be a back up as finally fit and having a consistent run he has been very good at the Bullants and his long kicking has been a feature. Armfield of course is the another as is Lucas who's poise was missed late in the year.

Hope that explains my thinking!!!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Couldn't agree more with you here, but you've introduced four new faces into the six defenders and retained, arguably, the worst two out of the ones we have.

Jamison is as good as any defender in the league. Yes, he plays a bit shorter than 193cm, but he is the one with runs on the board as a defender, not Brad Miller who, at best, was a stop-gap for a side conceding 20 goals week in, week out.... I like the part where he comes for nothing, but the Gold Coast are the ones with the extended list - and therefore the luxury of stockpiling.

I like what i've seen of Touhy on TV, but he's not ahead of Armfield, Ellard, Davies or Joseph. Absolutely, throw him in the mix with these guys during the preseason, but he's a long way from being considered as a stopping option for the likes of Le Cras, Didak, Davis, Stokes and Rioli to name a few.... It's not all about charginig off the last line at pace. You've got to get it first.

Yarran hasn't got a defensive bone in his body. Again, he would look good running past for a handball, but the deepest we would want him to go is centre wing.

The stories I'm hearing about O'Keeffe are all good. Tough, skilled, smart. All good... Get him to put together 20 weeks of work and we might have something, but like Touhy, he's not ahead of Armfield, Ellard, Davies, Joseph or even Russell - and Russell is a netballer; a corral-er.

My alternative:

FB: Armfield Jamison Bower
HB: Davies Waite White
C: Lucas GIBBS Simpson

Jarrad Waite has got all the tools to be the best in the business at CHB. The temperament deserts him all too often, but i'm backing him in to sort that out... A weekly viewing of his histrionics in Sydney a couple of weeks ago would be enough to straighten any man out.

What I like about Marcus Davies is that he plays a hard man's game. I think, and i've only seen a handful of minutes from him, that he might have that little bit of 'thug' in him that galvanises a group of defenders..... Similarly, Armfield is as hard as a cat's head. Forget the bounce that cost us. If he leaves that out of his game, then he loses all that's good about him.

Simon White is as sure a defender as i've seen in navy blue. He lacks a bit of pace, but what i'm looking for is a guy that collects marks from opposition kicks. Armfield, Bower and Waite provide plenty of run from the back, but if you want more, his spot would be the one to change.

Bower needs to beef up. We just can't afford to have him pushed around so easily by the big forwards... Bradshaw did it to him last year, but he was on one leg at the time, so he must be close... I'm yet to meet a Maori that can't add muscle in a hurry and sustain it.

I've put the centre line in there because we want the ball in these hands when we're going forward. GIBBS is the playmaker. Simpson and Lucas are the link between rebound and attack. For mine, the centre line picks itself.... Scotland is the incumbent winger, but Lucas is the future. Big, quick, agile, skilled... he's the one for me.

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Devastated to see him get injured. Things might have turned out a bit different with him in. Next year.

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