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Author:  TheGame [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:07 am ]
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Is it tainted?

Chris Judd's round 13 clash with Fremantle's Matthew Pavlich was cleared by the match review panel.

That's the poll on page 76 of the Heraldsun. :lol:
Author:  camel [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:41 am ]
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I wonder if they would have had a poll asking the same question if Dane "Basher" Swan won the prize! :garthp:
Author:  TheGame [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:47 am ]
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:lol:

I can't find the poll online today though so I'm guessing they pulled it.
Author:  The Normal One [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:50 am ]
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Cleared wasn't he?

Next week it will be Goddard should've been suspended for hitting Picken.
Author:  TheGame [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:53 am ]
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Quartermain is a @#$%&! tosser for bringing the incident up while he was receiving his medal. Bruce cops a lot of shit for being a bit strange but he would never have pulled a stunt like that.
Author:  The Duke [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:21 am ]
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TheGame wrote:
Quartermain is a !@#$%& tosser for bringing the incident up while he was receiving his medal. Bruce cops a lot of shit for being a bit strange but he would never have pulled a stunt like that.


QFT - QuarterBrain is a @#$%&! stick.
Author:  missnaut [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:02 am ]
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TheGame wrote:
Quartermain is a !@#$%& tosser for bringing the incident up while he was receiving his medal. Bruce cops a lot of shit for being a bit strange but he would never have pulled a stunt like that.


Completely agree - I thought it was really poor of Quarters to bring it up then and there...but it didn't surprise me because Quarters has had a bee in his bonnet about it all year.
Author:  bluedog [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:08 am ]
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missnaut wrote:
TheGame wrote:
Quartermain is a !@#$%& tosser for bringing the incident up while he was receiving his medal. Bruce cops a lot of shit for being a bit strange but he would never have pulled a stunt like that.


...I thought it was really poor of Quarters to bring it up then and there...but it didn't surprise me because Quarters has had a bee in his bonnet about it all year.


And rightly so.
Author:  Wojee [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:08 am ]
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Steven "You're in my town" Quartermain is a tosser.
Author:  Clayman [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:13 am ]
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The Duke wrote:
TheGame wrote:
Quartermain is a !@#$%& tosser for bringing the incident up while he was receiving his medal. Bruce cops a lot of shit for being a bit strange but he would never have pulled a stunt like that.


QFT - QuarterBrain is a !@#$%& stick.


AFL should send channel 10 a please explain for tainting the award. It is meant to be a celebration not be undermined.
Author:  darknavy [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:34 am ]
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[youtube]WAlEftlJnGc[/youtube]

This is the clip and it is in slow motion. I've never seen it before and I am surprised that people are complainind about this. Judd clearly did't throw the elbow back. He clearly hits Pavlich's upper arm first and his elbow bends back - the contact to his face would have been incidental with minimal impact - he just must have got the sweet spot.

No case to answer - the MRP got it right. There are plenty of times that players get a cut to the head that are not reportable.

Kosher Brownlow win
Author:  aramari [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:22 pm ]
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darknavy wrote:
[youtube]WAlEftlJnGc[/youtube]

This is the clip and it is in slow motion. I've never seen it before and I am surprised that people are complainind about this. Judd clearly did't throw the elbow back. He clearly hits Pavlich's upper arm first and his elbow bends back - the contact to his face would have been incidental with minimal impact - he just must have got the sweet spot.

No case to answer - the MRP got it right. There are plenty of times that players get a cut to the head that are not reportable.

Kosher Brownlow win


I was about to say the same. The angle shown last night showed a pretty innocuous attempt to relieve the pressure of the tackle. The upper arm lands in Pav's face. It was a tad reckless but certainly not vicious, so may have deserved a week. Awwwww Eddie
Author:  jimmae [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:46 pm ]
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It's pretty easy to open up a wound around on the scalp, forehead or around the cheek bone by virtue of the fact the skin can be quite taut. There was zero malice in it beyond reminding a tagger not to come up and smack him around at a stoppage/in-play (which McPhee had been doing all day to an extraordinary degree) and he went for the forearm chop and caught him flush with the elbow as well.

That's it. That's why it was thrown out. The tribunal would have had a whole other mess to deal with had they brought it up.
Author:  buzzaaaah [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:00 pm ]
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I actually never saw the footage before.
Clearly Judd was trying to chop the arm that was holding him illegally.

Play on. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Brownlow stands
Author:  grrofunger [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:04 pm ]
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i would have thought the bigger question was how did he get 2 votes in that game?
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:10 pm ]
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grrofunger wrote:
i would have thought the bigger question was how did he get 2 votes in that game?


I was very surprised by that.
Author:  thehalford [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:13 pm ]
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Wasn't that the match after we asked the umpires to look after him?

Job done :thumbsup:
Author:  club29 [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:22 pm ]
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Everyone brings up Pavs cut eye but the week after two tigers mistimed a high five and the lighted touch to one of their faces openned him up.

I have no problem with judd being cleared. :razz:
Author:  gerry atric [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:52 pm ]
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Much ado about nothing. Was he reported by the umpire? Did the Match Review guys find it reportable? No and no, so what's the issue? More fodder for idiot talk back radio and lazy inept journalists.
Author:  bondiblue [ Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:34 pm ]
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Quartermain is a real dick head. No class, a bit stupid and comes across as a dork.
Why would you bring that incident up when everyone is toasting to his victory? Tastless prick.

In 1993 Greg Williams needed 1 vote in round 22 to tie with Wankerneen.
Williams had 44 possessions in a match winning performance and did not receive 1 single vote.

It was leaked a couple of years ago that the junior umpire in that match was told not to give Williams any vote because Williams was a flower according to that senior umpire (forgot the prick's name).

That senior umpire should have been sued for this.

If you look at the number of votes ech team collected it does show that the higher the teams are on the ladder the more votes players from those teams won. But this is an individual award and Judd didn't have other players attracting votes with Simmo next best with 9.

If you look at the history of the Brownlow, you will notice that this is an award whereby players of bottom teams poll well because his team mates weren't pinching votes.

Pendlebury and Selwood were the reasons why Swan and Ablett couldn't win, and on the flip side, Judd was BOG in many more games than Ablett and Swan therefore he deserved to win.
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