To be honest I don't get all the hate for Docklands. It is next to a railway station and the tram and is more central than the MCG for everyone, not just the east and the south, and it is way better for night games held between May and August (ie most of the season). I'd love Saturday arvo games at the MCG and nightames at Docklands. Also it has more atmosphere for games attracting 30-45k. Whatever deal we have is another issue but if we get a good deal for sharing games between the G and Docklands, I have no objection to docklands.

I know it is old fashioned, but I miss PP. If we could have 3 or 4 games there like Hawks in Tas it wd give us a point of difference to other clubs and wd sell out each time as people seek to get away from the homogenised bland corporatisation of the game. I know it wd costs heaps to get it up to speed, maybe Jenny Pratt and Bruce M cd put in $10m to get it up to standard, because just on match receipts we wd make way more than a 30k game anywhere else.

Look at the premiership record....its undeniable. ..etihad.is a killer for no premierships and no profits

Look at the premiership record....its undeniable. ..etihad.is a killer for no premierships and no profits

I am not convinced Mosquito. All the list proves is that the most talented side usually wins the flag. The notable thing about that list is that almost all of the premiers this century have played very few games at the MCG, and half the flags have been won by non Melbourne sides and 40% by interstate sides. I think fortnightly interstate travel is much more of a hindrance than playing at Docklands.

A beautiful post,and apart from being beautiful,so much COMMON Sense...............great stuff Gerry.

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I wrote something similar a while back. Our unique identity is on the line, spilt between the 'G and soulless Etihad. Look at the biggest EPL clubs, they still gave their 30k fortresses and their salary cap is slightly more than ours.

Vision, people

Their tickets are also £65 a pop to be fair...

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Hang on. You haven't demonstrated ANY CAUSAL LINK between Etihad and not winning flags - just incidental ones.

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15 to 20 years is a long time to be President of a football club.



If Holden withdraw there $3 million per year sponsorship of the Collingwood HQ then Eddies position is nearly untenable.


Time for Collingwood members to have the guts to remove their President, like we had the guts to remove Elliott.

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Didn't Holden and other sponsors choose Collingwood was because of the extra exposure they would get from Eddie Everywhere in the media. I think they have succeeded with this strategy. Ironic now they may leave because of Eddie. Just proves his power to pull sponsors.

Now the public and some Collingwood supporters are tired of Eddie. 15 years may be too long.

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Well described Mickstar.

I concur.

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I think the big problems with Docklands are:

- When they don't run the heating, or when there's a strong wind coming off the bay, it can feel like you're sitting in a morgue in the colder months
- Level 1 seating is awful for viewing the game, especially with how poorly calibrated the LED signage can be, to the point where the game is probably better to watch on level 3
- Price segmenting of seating is ridiculous compared to the G
- The Spencer Street footbridge is woeful for a match between two Victorian teams

Thanks for the location, the roof, the WiFi and the seats, but everything else is shit

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one issue we agree upon

we MUST get all home games at the MCG - bar 3 or 4 for small interstate sides at Princes Park revamped.

when the best seats in Etihad are on level 2 on the wing for AFL members on one side and medallion club the other, you know its not our home ground and a complete dump

The WiFi is shit too.

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the above thread shows the causal link

Afl members don't get level 2

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1. docklands is a smaller ground with a dangerous surface- afl deny it as you would expect - effects our football performance
2. the financial arrangements kill our club and north and dogs - Essendon* were 1st in and got the best deal- effects our financial performance - dogs and north are looking to play elsewhere - Ballarat etc
3. Geelong lock in 8 home games and win at least 32 points before putting the foot on the false grass- benefits their football performance
4. Geelong pocket $700,000 (?) per home game - benefits their financial performance
4. Hawks have a great Tasmanian deal that benefits them more than ours with etihad-benefits their financial performance
5. Swans have home games on a natural surface and collect all the gate receipts-benefits their financial and football performance

thats a few reasons why swans cats hawks are winning flags over the last 15 years

afl members get aisle 34 and 35

location, seating, wifi, viewing, comfort, weather, bridge, membership, roof, it all adds nothing to winning a premiership
the only thing that matters is the surface and its effects on the players
and by all reports it takes its toll on a players body