agree in part - the home ground is a whole of club issue - covers football performance, financial performance and membership performance

as the old military saying goes - "if you control your ground , you control the war"

Level 2 seats are always going to be the best in the house in a 3-tier system, I'm just saying that the level 1 configuration is a tragic after-thought.

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15 to 20 years is a long time to be President of a football club.



If Holden withdraw there $3 million per year sponsorship of the Collingwood HQ then Eddies position is nearly untenable.


Time for Collingwood members to have the guts to remove their President, like we had the guts to remove Elliott.


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And who did we replace Elliott with?


Collins, who immediately did a deal with the AFL which we are only now starting to rise from. And he was hopelessly conflicted being CEO of Etihad of the time. Look at the deal he made to line his own pocket.


In some ways in hindsight I (almost) wish we kept Elliott who would have taken the AFL to the Supreme Court.

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And who did we replace Elliott with?


Collins, who immediately did a deal with the AFL which we are only now starting to rise from. And he was hopelessly conflicted being CEO of Etihad of the time. Look at the deal he made to line his own pocket.


In some ways in hindsight I (almost) wish we kept Elliott who would have taken the AFL to the Supreme Court.[/quote]


Stop blaming Collins...he was conflicted between insolvency of the club and therefore forced to etihad or voluntarily go to ethihad....carlton had no choice because of elliotts actions.

It's not a matter of who replaced him with.


The point I was making by bumping my post - was not to highlight the home ground issue, but to highlight the issue of a President whose been too long in the job.


Arrogance and hubris ultimately take over a persons better judgement.


It was time for Elliott to go and in the current scenario for Collingwood it's time for Eddie to go too.

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No it doesn't. It shows an incidental link.

The fact that shit teams have had Etihad as their home ground has more bearing.

It's like saying that Bob Skilton is a premiership killer. After all, every team that had Bob Skilton as a player or coach, got nowhere near a flag. Now that's definitely true. Is that a causal link? Because it's the exact same logic that you're using.

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The majority of Geelong's annual profit comes from ground sponsorships and marketing, corporate sponsorship and support, club merchandise sales, membership seat allocation and gate receipts.

We used to be them.........

Ps. Don't even get me started on the Etihad playing surface (concrete) or our gate receipts (if there is any) or our merchandise sales or ...

correct again brother

i dont understand your point

It is basic logic as explained below...

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whatever

No hang on. You cant make a logical error and then just say 'whatever'. Your point is invalid.

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whatever

... so the AFL have made (given) all the sh1t ViC teams Etihad as their home ground ....

20 years on and none of these sh1t teams have still not had any success, well blind Freddy would see that as a even a bigger reason for us to move out.

That may be so, but illiterate Freddy may have something to say about it.

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Hmmm.....I get the feeling I am luckily I have some 'special' in depth analysis posters on my ignore list...this way, my blood pressure stays in control from their obvious football knowledge. I bet someone is going to spoil it with a quoted reply.......

.."that's a fair cop" . Thanks for that. Always makes me laugh.

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You are probably right surrey...there is a mafia on this site...gang up on posters on cue...

Back to carltonsc for you

Hey MF, what I find really interesting is that if you call them out they go hiding but behind the keyboard they are very argessive, no it alls. I call it small man's disease.

But I really am in a much better place since I decided to use the ignore feature.

Anyway - enough of that, Trigg must get us back to Princes Park for smaller interstate home games. Only then will we truly become a true force in tha AFL again.