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Damian Barrett: Ratten has 4 weeks to convince the board
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Author:  Mil Hanna [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:47 pm ]
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BlueRob wrote:
What a load of rubish. This is a group of unskilled players would make the best coaches in the world look bad. The number one prority is to turn the list over ... they are mostly not worth persisting with except for about 5 players.


Your complete lack of football knowledge is truly astonishing. It is beond comprehension really.

How did this "group of unskilled players" manage to easily defeat the superpower of the past 3 seasons by using a combination of fast ball movement and exceptional disposal accuracy?

Fluke huh?

Then how did this same "group of unskilled players" back it up with a similar, perhaps slightly more impressive performance against one of the other power teams of the AFL?

Of course, that was a fluke again!! :lol:

Look - I don't know whether the major issue lies mostly with the coach, the playing group or a combination of both (most likely scenario), but to keep banging on about the list being a bunch of unskillful hacks that needs to be turned over is just plain bullshit.

Most of the playing group have shown they are phyiscally capable of anything during their time at the club. Now it's the mental, cultural and structural aspects of the team and coaching brigade that we need to get right to ensure they can perform at their peak week-in week-out.
Author:  Megaman [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:47 pm ]
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Nah, Harvey..
Author:  camel [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:54 pm ]
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Won't this be part of the Geelong almost sacked Bomber process.
Author:  camel [ Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:55 pm ]
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Megaman wrote:
Nah, Harvey..


I think I would go on a sabbatical if that [REDACTED] ever coached our club. :lol:
Author:  johnny [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:06 am ]
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i've watched both footy classified and the footy show for the first time this year, purely for the reason that i wanted to see us under the pump in the media...i'm desperate for anything that will get us to rise for a match.
quite sad really.


sticks and ratts have both copped it - ratts more so.
the way the whole club is being run is is now in the public's eye.

not a bad thing really.
Author:  ryan2000 [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:11 am ]
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The whole frigen club, Players / Coaching staff / Board Members, have 4 weeks to convince US...... the supporters and fans that stick through this shit!

Ratts to Lappin
Sticks to Icke
Judd to......... Whoever.


The whole place needs a change!!!!!
Author:  get rid of the hacks [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:26 am ]
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This place needs less drama queens and more patience.

List has a way to go in terms of depth and maturity of key players.
Author:  Thru&ThruBlue [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:50 am ]
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'snip'
Author:  camel [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:21 am ]
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Author:  Snoz [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:51 am ]
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BlueRob wrote:
What a load of rubish. This is a group of unskilled players would make the best coaches in the world look bad. The number one prority is to turn the list over ... they are mostly not worth persisting with except for about 5 players.


WOW!!!! - please name the 5 players and lets get them knighted!!!!!! Those 5 players were able to beat reigning premier and StKilda despite the incompetence of the other 17 unskilled hacks who wasted there time running out there in those games.

Maybe the alternate view is we have a reasonably competent list (albeit with space for improvement) - able to match it with the best when on-song - but clearly the coaching staff are not getting the best out of them at the moment - and at the end of the day that is precisely the role of the coaching panel - to extract the best out of what they have got - which is what they did vs StKilda and Geelong. Sure - we should get over those games and stop going back to them - but they did prove what the current list is capable of and have set the benchmark for our performances.

Hopefully we will destroy Essendon*, so then we can move to a more sane discussion re where we are at (I think most supporters are speaking a bit emotionally at the moment - and fair enough as the last 6 weeks have not been good enough. Influenced by emotion reflects a genuine passion for the club - which is a good thing - but means sometimes logic and rational thinking suffers a little).
There are a few list changes required - but I dont think 17 of last weeks side need to go:)
Author:  TheGame [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:55 am ]
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Without any 'sources' it's pretty obvious if we don't win 2 out of the next 4 Ratten is going to get the chop.
Author:  Blue Vain [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:09 am ]
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Thanks Camelboy. I dont know how you do it but I can always rely on you to come up with the clip! :thumbsup:

As for Damien Parrot...


Quote:
Brett Ratten would....probably.....almost certainly...be parting with the Blues at the end of the year


Is he Rattens script writer?
Author:  buzzaaaah [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:11 am ]
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It obviously wasn't enough of a scoop to run with in the paper. There's nothing on the Hun website from Damo. I am not sure about the print edition but I doubt it.

Was this just filler for the segment??
Author:  Wild Blue Yonder [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:36 am ]
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I suppose he had to say something to fill in the slot. Being TFS he probably could've announced that Saturday night's game is a big match.
Author:  Navy Blue Horse [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:26 am ]
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buzzaaaah wrote:
It obviously wasn't enough of a scoop to run with in the paper. There's nothing on the Hun website from Damo. I am not sure about the print edition but I doubt it.

Was this just filler for the segment??


I don't think he writes for the Hun anymore, he's teamed up with Hutchy.
Author:  Navy Blue Horse [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:26 am ]
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fmurphy30 wrote:
I think we have been poor for the last two months, but pre-season no one thought we'd make the eight. Ordinary or not, we have been better than 9 other teams this year and its not like we are old.



Good luck tonight Ratts.
Author:  missnaut [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Damien Barrett: Ratten has 4 weeks to convince the board
ah so this is the big news about a coach's future they were referring too. I went to bed as I assumed that if it was about Ratts it wouldn't be something we hadn't already figured out.
Author:  BigKev [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:47 am ]
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Navy One wrote:
* He mentioned that this is a shift on the Carlton coaching outlook

* Believes that he may be sacked even if Carlton limp into the finals

* Ratts is contracted till end 2011 but Carlton people believe that retaining him is more expensive than parting company

* he is amongst the lowest paid coaches in AFL

* This entire news item / scoop is based of phone calls that he (Barret) has received and phone calls that he has made.


Don't tell me he's been talking to Thorton again. :grin:
Author:  BigKev [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:03 am ]
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Mil Hanna wrote:
BlueRob wrote:
What a load of rubish. This is a group of unskilled players would make the best coaches in the world look bad. The number one prority is to turn the list over ... they are mostly not worth persisting with except for about 5 players.


Your complete lack of football knowledge is truly astonishing. It is beond comprehension really.

How did this "group of unskilled players" manage to easily defeat the superpower of the past 3 seasons by using a combination of fast ball movement and exceptional disposal accuracy?

Fluke huh?

Then how did this same "group of unskilled players" back it up with a similar, perhaps slightly more impressive performance against one of the other power teams of the AFL?

Of course, that was a fluke again!! :lol:

Look - I don't know whether the major issue lies mostly with the coach, the playing group or a combination of both (most likely scenario), but to keep banging on about the list being a bunch of unskillful hacks that needs to be turned over is just plain bullshit.

Most of the playing group have shown they are phyiscally capable of anything during their time at the club. Now it's the mental, cultural and structural aspects of the team and coaching brigade that we need to get right to ensure they can perform at their peak week-in week-out.


I don't totally agree with BlueRob either Mil, but I fail to see how his post merits the personal attack.

But I don't totally disagree with him either. Have you ever seen me play golf? No, of course not. Man you should've seen my best shot - nearly a hole in one! In fact if I could put together a highlights reel of my best 20-30 strokes I reckon I'd look like a real star. I'm not though. Just a weekend hacker. Too many dud shots intersperse the good ones.

And that's the difference between a footballer who's worth keeping and one who isn't. Sure all the guys on our list are physically capable of playing quality football, but which ones are going to be able to do it week in week out? Personally I think it's a bit early to be throwing them all out bar five - there's heaps of young uns and they take time to develop consistency. But I do agree that there's a few with some big question marks hanging over their head.
Author:  Stamos [ Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:06 am ]
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get rid of the hacks wrote:
the only word Barrett would get from insiders at Carlton would be $%ck off

:thumbsup: Yep
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