its just a shame about the trade particulars - another example of the old Carlton sadly

Yeah, curse old Carlton, the same 'Old Carlton' that got us Diesel, Earl, Clape, Dean Rice, Matty Hogg, Hickmott, Lappin........

What WERE we thinking????

Yeah, curse old Carlton, the same 'Old Carlton' that got us Diesel, Earl, Clape, Dean Rice, Matty Hogg, Hickmott, Lappin........

What WERE we thinking????

For me, it isn't a question of whether we should have gone after Brock, it's whether we gave up too much for him.

Brock brings hardness, endurance, footy smarts and leadership skills to our midfield...

But pick #11 for a player from the wooden spoon club who didn't make the top 10 of their B&F the year before, who has a history of injury problems, who has questionable pace and ability to spread, and who has no depth in his kicking...

If the Demons wouldn't deal for less than #11 (or at least agree to, say, Brock + #34 for #11 + #59, or similar), an alternative might have been to shift our focus to Luke Ball or even Shane Tuck, whom we might have been able to get for a lot less...

Anyway, I reckon in 12 months time we'll have a better idea as to whether this trade was a good idea. It didn't seem like a good idea at the time, it seems like a worse idea now, so fingers crossed Brock can have a better 2011....

Superb Post.

who has questionable pace and ability to spread, and who has no depth in his kicking

But pick #11 for a player from the wooden spoon club who didn't make the top 10 of their B&F the year before, who has a history of injury problems, who has questionable pace and ability to spread, and who has no depth in his kicking...

If the Demons wouldn't deal for less than #11 (or at least agree to, say, Brock + #34 for #11 + #59, or similar), an alternative might have been to shift our focus to Luke Ball or even Shane Tuck, whom we might have been able to get for a lot less...

Go back through the years and show me a premiership team that hasn't got a player from another club...........hard isn't it...............but that's the old days right?


right?


Sure this one might not work out, doesn't mean the whole theory is dead and buried.

Yeah, curse old Carlton, the same 'Old Carlton' that got us Diesel, Earl, Clape, Dean Rice, Matty Hogg, Hickmott, Lappin........

What WERE we thinking????

The best and fairest result means little.

Gibbs and Murphy finished higher in our B & F than Fevola who won another AA guernsey.

Mclean wasn't doing the role their coaches asked of their players.

I believe Mclean wasn't happy with the role they asked him to play last year.

Why do you think he left?

Collingwood went hard for an inside midfielder with dodgy groins who was dropped by the Saints last year.

Yet Ball didn't crack a spot in their top ten in their B & F ahead of Blake and Gram.

Mclean is a good and penetrating kick.

Every Melbourne supporter I know says Brock hasn't had any depth in his kicking for about 2-3 years. That accords with what I've seen of him so far for us.

And Collingwood didn't give up a first round pick for Ball...

[People I have spoken with from Melbourne have said that he is a poor kick and a poor decision maker when under pressure. The biggest criticism he had was his leg speed and everyone I have spoken with has confidently stated that he will not play AFL past 25 years old. His body simply cannot handle it, his injuries are degenerative and no amount of ops will make a difference.