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STOP DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE ! (sakc ratten MKII)
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Author:  livolover [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  STOP DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE ! (sakc ratten MKII)
Brett Ratten must be REMOVED !
Author:  marciblue [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:58 pm ]
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I just hate this! We are so far behind teams in so many areas and are years away from achieveing success.

I'm sorry but the blame rests with the head coach first and foremost - Ratten is proving a failure and we can let years pass by making excuses.

He is not up to it and must go! :hitcomputer:
Author:  DocSherrin III [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:59 pm ]
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Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs must play Bullants!

Changing the coach now ain't gonna achieve anything.
Author:  Juddy&theKruezers [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:00 pm ]
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Let's wait till round 22 and see how Ratts has done by then... :sly:
Author:  Pafloyul [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:03 pm ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
Marc Murphy and Bryce Gibbs must play Bullants!

Changing the coach now ain't gonna achieve anything.


It seems that we know we are a bit crap but nothing will achieve anything, apparently, unless you are of the strange persuasion who believe that time is a Carlton supporter. :?
Author:  DocSherrin III [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:04 pm ]
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November decision after the review.

I've booked my holiday in September. We probably won't play finals and Collingwood will win the flag. I refuse to be in Victoria when this occurs.
Author:  Hornet [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:06 pm ]
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Let's wait till round 22 and see how Ratts has done by then... :sly:

x 2

Sacking him now will prove nothing - we're done for this season regardless.

But extending / confirming contracts mid season is just :screwy:


We have serious issues at coaching, playing and administrative level than need to be addressed post season.
Author:  spf [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:07 pm ]
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Nuff Nuffs are we all?

Ratten is not up to it. We need to plan for the future and Ratten isn't it.

Another rubbish performance by Carlton.
Author:  verbs [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:07 pm ]
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We'll be 1-9 by round 10. Mark my words!
Author:  Pafloyul [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:08 pm ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
November decision after the review.

I've booked my holiday in September. We probably won't play finals and Collingwood will win the flag. I refuse to be in Victoria when this occurs.


God give me bottom of the ladder with no concessions but not that! :eek:
Author:  DesEnglish [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:10 pm ]
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Murphy and Gibb s weren't flash but had plenty of mates. Walker Joseph and Carrazo we're equally poor. Judd has got to the stage where he's lost faith in the players around him and now he's trying to do it all himself. The signs are very bad indeed.
Author:  DesEnglish [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:10 pm ]
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Murphy and Gibb s weren't flash but had plenty of mates. Walker Joseph and Carrazo we're equally poor. Judd has got to the stage where he's lost faith in the players around him and now he's trying to do it all himself. The signs are very bad indeed.
Author:  Outback Blue [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:11 pm ]
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Hornet wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Let's wait till round 22 and see how Ratts has done by then... :sly:

x 2

Sacking him now will prove nothing - we're done for this season regardless.

But extending / confirming contracts mid season is just :screwy:


We have serious issues at coaching, playing and administrative level than need to be addressed post season.



Yeah, but with Choco Williams stepping down and Voss and Knights with question marks over their heads, maybe we
need to get in early and start looking for another coach right now !!!!!
Author:  livolover [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:11 pm ]
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Doesn't need to be sacked tomorrow....but cannot possibly be allowed to coach in 2011.

The search for the "Best Available" coach in the country should start tomorrow.

Our systems and structures (or lack of them) are exposed week in week out !

Paul Roos would have been laughing at how easy we were to dismantle....just like R Eade last week.

Place our list up against the Swans and one for one....you could not possible argue that they have more talent....but they have a system and structure that allows them to maximise their strengths and eek every possible win from that group.

In contrast, our systems make talented players look like turnover merchants and make smart footballers look like headless chooks ! The amount of time we were storming towards 50 in the first half and the players held on to it for too long because they simply had no option !!!!
Author:  Pafloyul [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:12 pm ]
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Hornet wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Let's wait till round 22 and see how Ratts has done by then... :sly:

x 2

Sacking him now will prove nothing - we're done for this season regardless.

But extending / confirming contracts mid season is just :screwy:


We have serious issues at coaching, playing and administrative level than need to be addressed post season.


I don't know if anyone really meant immediately.
Author:  Taff [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:16 pm ]
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Quote:
The search for the "Best Available" coach in the country should start tomorrow.


We need the best, not best available.
Author:  Mark J [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:19 pm ]
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S.O.S to SOS......Save our club.
Author:  JK [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:20 pm ]
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Dr Sherrin, how in the hell won't changing the coach at seasons end achieve anything?
Author:  verbs [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:21 pm ]
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My coaching wish list (in order of preference):

Dunstall
Hird
Frawley
Choco
Ayres
Mark Harvey
Malthouse
Jack Riewoldt
Dwayne Russell
Laidley
Walls
Mike Sheahan
Gerard Healy
Leigh Colbert
Kouta
Campo
Knights
K Bartlett
Pagan
Brittain
Voss
Judd
Mark Jamar
Worsfold
The old guy who coaches Adelaide
Earl Spalding
Scott Spalding
Sumich
Nathan Buckley
Brian Taylor
Harry Taylor
The old guy who coaches Melbourne
S Silvagni
Tim Lane
Joyce Brown
Either of the Scott twins
Hinkley
McKenna
Whitnall
James Manson
Gary Ablett Snr
Adrian Whitehead
Nick Maxwell
Dean Jones
Author:  MIL [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:22 pm ]
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Ratten must be replaced asap if we don't want to have to rebuild and wait 8 years to be decent (due to draft concessions given to GC and GWS). How we can't flood their fwd line and then rebound, as they and other average teams do to us every week is just mind-boggling. How an AFL coach cannot inspire his troops at least once in a month to the mere basics of AFL footy such as attck the footy and stick tackles, and support your man, and hunt in numbers is STAGGERING.

Sticks must be sacked for approving the Ratten contract extension mid-season :screwy: :hitcomputer: :hitcomputer: :banghead: :banghead:

Get Chocco, and the longer we wait, the greater chance that Bummers will snaffle him.

Expose as many kids as we can for the rest of the season. Finals are now out of the question, so why not play Davies, Ellard, Casboult. Christ we could even play our highly paid 206cm Bullants ruckman.

The Carrazo's of this world must be punished for lack of endeavour, so its a month in the red for him. We also are so lacking in leadership, in fact we may have turned a potential great leader in Judd into a.......well I'm not sure what he is at the moment :banghead: :banghead:

But the buck stops with the coach. Disgraceful.
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