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 Post subject: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:46 am 
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... sick of seeing Gibbs in a BP marking an inferior player?

Why shift him on-ball when we are 7 gls down?

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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:29 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
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PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:08 pm 
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I don't mind it, he isn't Luke Hodge, but at the same time you need quality players in defence. I think he is still improving as a player, and you would think he will be a full time midfielder eventually.

I think Ratts is using him like we used Kouta circa 1999


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Gibbs to defence is perhaps the best move Ratten has made all year. He just sets us up so well off half-back.


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Need him for Le Cras this week.....


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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 1:40 pm 
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it seems to me that gibbs and scotland have changed roles and gibbs down there also has changed some matchups that russell may have taken previously (motlop, goddard) and is allowing him to play in a more attacking manner also. Personally i prefer him in the middle of the ground but to a degree understand why he is back there.

Just as an observation though gibbs does appear a little lost at times when who he matches up on just drags him back to the goal square, which is defeating the purpose of why he is back there in the first place.

will be interesting to see how this evolves once bower, walker and waite are available.


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Blues Forever wrote:
Gibbs to defence is perhaps the best move Ratten has made all year. He just sets us up so well off half-back.


I agree. Also with Walks being injured, having someone who can provide good drive off HB is a massive asset.

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Bower missing.
Walker missing.

Often times playing GIBBS in defence is as much about necessity as it is about tactics.

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Blues Forever wrote:
Gibbs to defence is perhaps the best move Ratten has made all year. He just sets us up so well off half-back.


I agree. Also with Walks being injured, having someone who can provide good drive off HB is a massive asset.


I agree also. Having Walker and Lucas in the side made it harder to take Gibbs away from the play. The back six i want to see it.

army jamison Walker
Russell Bower Gibbs/lucas

I like seeing Gibbs at HB and then moving up the ground later in the game when the real pace has gone from the game.


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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:26 pm 
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Forget meaningless stats or the 'role' he is playing. Gibbs is having virtually no impact on our games. Now I know there are those who don't want to hear this but it is my opinion. It's not a knee jerk reaction. I've been concerned for a long time. Ratts must go proactive with Gibbs. Play him as the classic old style centreman, linking defemce with attack through the middle. Kade Simpson is becoming our second most influential midfielder.

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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 7:09 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
... sick of seeing Gibbs in a BP marking an inferior player?

Why shift him on-ball when we are 7 gls down?
Agree with this. When our midfield is getting towelled up like it was on Sunday,it`s just a waste having Gibbs in defence. Nobody could cut off that supply to their forward line.
When Fev left, i`m sure most people would have been looking for more goals from our midfield with Gibbs being a prime contributor, not on the last line of defence.


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99prelim wrote:
Forget meaningless stats or the 'role' he is playing. Gibbs is having virtually no impact on our games.


Yep, spot on and that's the concern. Not sure if he's working hard enough either.

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That blinder of a game he played at half back against the cats to me is the blueprint. If he could learn to produce that every week we will be a much better TEAM.

I dont think Ratts should move him a soon as teams start to come up with plans to stop him. Gibbs has to learn to work through things when they are not going his way. Not that he has been terrible.

Malthouse did the same with a few of his a few years back and it seems to have done them good.


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I like it if he is playing on a high half forward who moves into the midfield like chapman, but im not a fan of him being stuck deep in the backpocket on a motlop type.


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One of Bryce's great strengths is his ability to think through and win one on one contests IMO. Unfortunately, these are few and far between in the midfield. He should be played forward, possibly on a HFF where he could do some serious damage.

RE the Geelong game I don't think the Cats or Bomber Thompson showed us enough respect. Gibbs wasn't being dragged back to the square by Chapman. Big mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
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In a way does it really matter where he plays?

The game has evolved in to a rugby scrum with 30 players around a ball in any area of the ground.

Personally, l think he should be getting tagged n not tagging someone else in the backline. Hes not dominating the role down there, he is just another backmen. Atleast Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Hodge, Goddard (playing backline), worry opposition coaches and usually try to tag or play close attention to those players.
Gibbs is just another player in the backline, might aswell bring in a rookie and let him learn the ropes. Bring in Griggs, remember him doing the job on Heath Shaw couple years ago.

Put gibbs in the mid field to evolve into a elite midfielder, playing a backline role doesn't quicken that process.


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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Goltzenberg wrote:
In a way does it really matter where he plays?

The game has evolved in to a rugby scrum with 30 players around a ball in any area of the ground.

Personally, l think he should be getting tagged n not tagging someone else in the backline. Hes not dominating the role down there, he is just another backmen. Atleast Heath Shaw, Sam Fisher, Hodge, Goddard (playing backline), worry opposition coaches and usually try to tag or play close attention to those players.
Gibbs is just another player in the backline, might aswell bring in a rookie and let him learn the ropes. Bring in Griggs, remember him doing the job on Heath Shaw couple years ago.

Put gibbs in the mid field to evolve into a elite midfielder, playing a backline role doesn't quicken that process.


TOTALLY AGREE

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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
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I believe the thinking behind this is that he is one of the better markers in the team, and we're stretched in that department at present.

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 Post subject: Re: Am I the only one...
PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:21 pm 
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Playing him on Motlop was awful though

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