That Collingwood side had an average age of 24 and average games played of 97.

That Carlton side had an average age of 22.8 and an average games played of 69.

Can't remember who it was (Parkin maybe?) but I remember a coach some years ago saying that for all but the greatest freaks it really takes 80 games before they know what the !@#$%&'s going on out there.

We had 8 players with 80 or more games out there and they had 14.

This team was awesome against Geelong and they'll have more performances like that but they'll also struggle for consistency because they're young and they'll have more games like this one too. It was a lot to ask them to back up after an effort like last week.

When this group has an average age of 24 and average games played of 97 we'll be a whole lot better than that Collingwood side.

It just takes a little while.

sorry gws i have you on my foes list so missed it

Regards Cazzesman

But saw this...?

How many has Rhino O'Sullivan got up to?

Our own threads are like children. We look in on them to see how they are growing and who's bullying them

Regards Cazzesman

shove your 60 game mark up your arse coz im just shattered!

collingwood had 13 guys with 60 or less and 10 guys with 50 or less games running around today.

That's odd.

I count 9 players with 60 or less and 7 with 50 or less.

They also have 12 players with over 100 games.

How does that compare with where we're at?

What's amazing is that they only have one player in that side (Toovey) who's played between 60 and 100 games.

Didak
Cloke
Ball
Swan
Johnson
O' Brien
Shaw
Maxwell
Brown
Jolly
Pendlebury
Thomas

You can carry a few kids to a premiership if you have a core of really experienced players around them.

Last time i trust triple m.

And we are about to lose 5 players who have played over 50 games.

We really are coming from a long way back when you look at it.

Young blokes who rocked up to Collingwood over the last five years had Buckley, Waklin, Clement, Licker, Rocka etc to watch and learn from. Although not all of them are top players they all meant business when it come to footy. D1ckheads like the Shaws and Didak got sorted out pretty quick.
Young blokes rocking up at carlton between 2002 - 2007 got nothin. Fev teaching them how to bet, Stevens and whitnal hitting the turps, Houla partying hard, stubborn Pagan not keen on the modern way things are done. Carlton just wasnt the place to get the best out of yourself.
Now we have Judd and Ratts is working his way through the list and slowly but surely removing those who are not quite up for it. Judd, Carrazzo, Simpson and Waite are the ones setting the example now with Krooz, Murphy, Jamo, Russ and gibbs working up to being good leaders. Only now are recruits starting to turn up and see how it should be done. Lucas, White and Davies all showing a bit and Zac looking the goods. That second rung of leaders starts peaking so will we as team.
We should continue to see good results from here on in as we now have a good set up for development and a good culture amongst the playing list developing.