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Is Mclean the slowest player in Afl
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Author:  ALBANIAN BLUE [ Mon May 03, 2010 6:30 am ]
Post subject:  Is Mclean the slowest player in Afl
Sorry to say but he was worst on ground by a mile.

In my opinion questions should be asked at the people that agreed to bring him to the club.

Any one has any thoughts??????????
Author:  ThePsychologist [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:33 am ]
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Totally agree. People I know at Melbourne can't believe we gave up such a pick for him.

In today's game you need either leg speed or be very quick by hand and foot. McLean is neither!

Speak with any player and they will tell you the game has got quicker and quicker. It has simply past guys like him by.

Against the better sides where you need to run and carry and kick long to position to break up the zones McLean simply cannot do any of it.
Author:  HELLAS BLUE [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:36 am ]
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We really cocked this one up. Bentick would have done a better job than Mclean yesterday and we could have got another Lucas with that pick!! :?
Author:  Sydney Blue [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:44 am ]
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He is not there for speed -Greg Williams was the slowest player in the league when he played

You go out and play a flashy pants outside shoot out of course he going to be found wanting

This club never learns we keep trying to put on a spectical when we play Essendon* and Collingwood and we get pants every time - We need to play tight in close footy and thats when Maclean will show hs worth -

Can you imagine how slow Geelong - StKilda or Sydney would look it they tried to play shoot outs each week - We beat Geelong with speed last week and thought we would do the same with the Pies - didnt work becuse they are quicker this game should have been played in tight and shut down problem is we dont play enough Maclean types to do that
Author:  blue4 [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:44 am ]
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We were screaming out three-four yrs ago to stop these type of trades...I guess we will never learn!
Author:  ThePsychologist [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:53 am ]
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Sydney Blue wrote:
He is not there for speed -Greg Williams was the slowest player in the league when he played


Williams was slow because of leg speed but he was easily the quickest by foot or hand and was a fantastic decision maker especially under pressure. McLean is none of that. Watch him live and it is embarrassing how he is consistently left behind and simply can't get to contests others do!
Author:  blue4 [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:56 am ]
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Comparing Diesel with Mclean is laughable.... Diesel was a playmaker, Mclean is a potato.
Author:  keogh [ Mon May 03, 2010 7:58 am ]
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not far off it
thing about yesterday was he didnt get his hands dirty too often

and he fumbled

when a player is as slow as he is and he does the 2 other things you are down to 17 men in todays footiy
Author:  The Duke [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:14 am ]
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He doesn't put his head over the footy - strange from a bloke who's supposed to be an inside mid :? .

Do Melbourne give refunds?
Author:  blue4 [ Mon May 03, 2010 8:26 am ]
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Just give him back to Melbourne for pick 40.
Author:  ryan2000 [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:02 am ]
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I'd rather Robbo in............ and robbo has hardly set the world on fire this season. But McLean just looks slow and useless and at times appears like he doesn't give a shit!
Author:  The Spornstar [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:03 am ]
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I'm not ready to sack him completely, but gee he'd want to seriously lift his game. He does seem incredibly slow.
Unfortunately I hope he's carrying a short term injury - at least that would help explain his form. However despite what others here have said I also know a couple of Melbourne fans who were really upset to lose him. Remember he did play very well against Richmond and Brisbane. That said, I think he needs to go to the VFL or if he's carrying an injury have a few weeks off to get over it.
Author:  marciblue [ Mon May 03, 2010 9:39 am ]
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A grossly incompetent trade AFAIC. From the ridiculous premature announcement, to what we gave up. Just ridiculous,
It will take a small miracle for Brock to turn his game around. He was a liability yesterday
Author:  JS74 [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:15 am ]
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Shocking decison by the blues to give away pick 11 for this guy. Not only does he lack leg speed when he does get his hands on it, he is too slow to release the footy by hand or foot, too often getting caught.
His footskills are below par, and therefore I see no value in him. Surely Hadley or Robinson in the centre square would provide us with more grunt and footy smarts than Brock. He is a liability and anyone that thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. If the Blues wanted an inside midfielder we could have have traded for Shane Tuck and gave away a late pick, instead of pick 11. Tuck is not much chop but I would have him anyday ahead of Brock and pick 11 could have been used on Jetta or Talia.
Author:  DocSherrin III [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:36 am ]
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People need to understand his role. His role is to spend more time on his knees than a Tiger Woods mistress and to block like it's 3rd down and 20. He's not there for his speed. He's there to prolong and enhance his Captain's career.

Providing he gets to each contest and has sure hands - I want him in the team and I'd suggest Chris Judd does too. Problem was - yesterday he didn't position himself correctly at each contest and he fumbled far too often.

To suggest that Mitch Robinson would be a suitable replacement is laughable. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid. But I'll like him even more when he knows what he's doing on a footy field. He expends so much energy running to the wrong spots. He has an amazing appetite for the contest, but his footy brain and touch in close aren't there just yet.

Having said all that - Brock's pace is a worry on a larger ground like the MCG and Subiaco. Against the Saints @ Etihad and without Richard Hadley and Davey Ellard who can't be promoted, he's a certain starter.
Author:  keogh [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:40 am ]
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Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
People need to understand his role. His role is to spend more time on his knees than a Tiger Woods mistress and to block like it's 3rd down and 20. He's not there for his speed. He's there to prolong and enhance his Captain's career.

Providing he gets to each contest and has sure hands - I want him in the team and I'd suggest Chris Judd does too. Problem was - yesterday he didn't position himself correctly at each contest and he fumbled far too often.

To suggest that Mitch Robinson would be a suitable replacement is laughable. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid. But I'll like him even more when he knows what he's doing on a footy field. He expends so much energy running to the wrong spots. He has an amazing appetite for the contest, but his footy brain and touch in close aren't there just yet.

Having said all that - Brock's pace is a worry on a larger ground like the MCG and Subiaco. Against the Saints @ Etihad and without Richard Hadley and Davey Ellard who can't be promoted, he's a certain starter.






yesterdy he was an embarrasment
he did the old tough bumpy bumpy shit to start with then proceeded to hang out the back of packs on too many occasions.

He was a passenger in the biggest game of his career.
Providing hadley's knee is ok straight in for Brock who has earned a well earned rest in the magoos
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:47 am ]
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keogh wrote:
Dr.SHERRIN wrote:
People need to understand his role. His role is to spend more time on his knees than a Tiger Woods mistress and to block like it's 3rd down and 20. He's not there for his speed. He's there to prolong and enhance his Captain's career.

Providing he gets to each contest and has sure hands - I want him in the team and I'd suggest Chris Judd does too. Problem was - yesterday he didn't position himself correctly at each contest and he fumbled far too often.

To suggest that Mitch Robinson would be a suitable replacement is laughable. Don't get me wrong, I like the kid. But I'll like him even more when he knows what he's doing on a footy field. He expends so much energy running to the wrong spots. He has an amazing appetite for the contest, but his footy brain and touch in close aren't there just yet.

Having said all that - Brock's pace is a worry on a larger ground like the MCG and Subiaco. Against the Saints @ Etihad and without Richard Hadley and Davey Ellard who can't be promoted, he's a certain starter.






yesterdy he was an embarrasment
he did the old tough bumpy bumpy shit to start with then proceeded to hang out the back of packs on too many occasions.

He was a passenger in the biggest game of his career.
Providing hadley's knee is ok straight in for Brock who has earned a well earned rest in the magoos


It may have been the biggest crowd he's played in front of and maybe the biggest game of his Carlton career, but by no stretch was it the biggest game of his career.

He was hardly an embarassment either. Brock needs to develop an understanding with his teammates and where they all need to be positioned at clearances. Game 1 was a success, this was game 2.
Author:  Wojee [ Mon May 03, 2010 10:48 am ]
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I don't think it was his speed, or lack thereof, that was the problem. A sprint between him and Luke Ball would end in a nil-all draw yet Ball looked pretty decent yesterday.
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:50 am ]
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Sydney Blue wrote:

This club never learns we keep trying to put on a spectical when we play Essendon* and Collingwood and we get pants every time - We need to play tight in close footy and thats when Maclean will show hs worth -



When is that SB? I'm still waiting. I'm patient though.

I thought McLean was recruited to play tight in close footy and dish out the ball.
He doesn't do that.
He receives the ball and then locks it in more than not.
Author:  bondiblue [ Mon May 03, 2010 11:53 am ]
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The Spornstar wrote:
I'm not ready to sack him completely, but gee he'd want to seriously lift his game. He does seem incredibly slow.
Unfortunately I hope he's carrying a short term injury - at least that would help explain his form. However despite what others here have said I also know a couple of Melbourne fans who were really upset to lose him. Remember he did play very well against Richmond and Brisbane. That said, I think he needs to go to the VFL or if he's carrying an injury have a few weeks off to get over it.


Neither of those 2 teams a fast teams.

One is on the bottom without a win, and the other has 2 Power Fwds to kick goals.
Neither are very fast.
McLean gets exposed against fast teams, or when he's not switched on to play his role.

I'm not interested in cutting any senior player any slack whilst we are building a team to play finals and win a Flag.
McLean has had a role to ,play and hasn't: Simple.
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