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2011 Debutants for Round 1: Who will they be?
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Author:  Virgin Blue [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  2011 Debutants for Round 1: Who will they be?
Does this tell us anything?
Author:  Wojee [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:28 pm ]
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Yes, that we have a very young and inexperienced team overall.
Author:  Virgin Blue [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:29 pm ]
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Does it tell us the MC maybe realise that some of the regular players in the team are not going to take us to Premiership glory, and there's a need therefore to blood some more young talent as soon as possible?
Author:  jimmae [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:35 pm ]
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Virgin Blue wrote:
Does it tell us the MC maybe realise that some of the regular players in the team are not going to take us to Premiership glory, and there's a need therefore to blood some more young talent as soon as possible?

No? Just about every team in the comp has had two debutants... it's called turnover.
Author:  ThePsychologist [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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Lucas and White are probably the obvious ones? Davies is probably next but White has jumped ahead of him. Tiller and Kerr are way off and O'Keefe has been injured and will need time.

We have 9 guys with over one hundred games and none with over 200. We are inexperienced and need games into our kids. Good teams debut players when they earn it.
Author:  ryan2000 [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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Yeah,

It tells me that we have obviously lost 2 senior certain top 22 starters! Fev and Stevens.

I have no problem with this.


Lucas looks good.
Author:  woof [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:40 pm ]
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I thought we had four debutants in round 1 last year.
Joseph and Robinson come to mind, can't remember the other two.
Author:  Dominator_7 [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:43 pm ]
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woof wrote:
I thought we had four debutants in round 1 last year.
Joseph and Robinson come to mind, can't remember the other two.


Garlett and Big Sauce Jacobs
Author:  Virgin Blue [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:46 pm ]
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Be it simply turnover that all clubs do or something more strategic, I posted a thread early this week that focussed on looking at our list and how there are limitations on the list and how in a few years if we get rid of these limitations we are actually left with a very young side and a side thin on midfield talent.

Maybe the club are aware too that there are players that need to be shipped off and good kids blooded...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=27775

TEAM CIRCA 2013

B Joseph (90), Jamison (100), Bower (110)
HB Russell (140), Austin (70)/White (40), Grigg (90)
C Lucas (60), Gibbs (130), Simpson (180)
R Kruezer (110), Judd (240), Murphy (150)
HF Yarran (70), Henderson (80), Waite (180)
F Betts (160), Barry Hall type Recruited Via Trade (250), Garlett (60)

INT (Smalls/Flankers) Kerr (30), O’Keefe (30), Robinson (80). Maybe one of Walker or McLean will survive??? But when you look at their respective limitations, 3 years seems a long way off doesn’t it !!

INT (Talls) Casboult (30), Donaldson (30), O’hAilpin (120), Hampson(80)/Jacobs (40)/Warnock (90), Davies (40)

Lime = 2010 Debutants
Red = 2009 Debutants
Orange = New in Last 2 Years Via Trade

That's 9 new players in 2 years into the team of the future :razz:
Author:  Nicko Carstairs [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Two Debutants in just the first 4 Rounds
jimmae wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
Does it tell us the MC maybe realise that some of the regular players in the team are not going to take us to Premiership glory, and there's a need therefore to blood some more young talent as soon as possible?

No? Just about every team in the comp has had two debutants... it's called turnover.

Agree. Hasn't Geelong had a debutant or 2
Author:  TruBlueBrad [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:32 pm ]
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I thought this thread was going to be bemoaning the fact we'd only had 2 debutants and asking for more.
Author:  tommi [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:34 pm ]
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Yup.........

should be TWO per 1/4...........!


kindest regards tommi
Author:  Adam Chatfield [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:47 pm ]
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I blame Ratten!
Author:  frank dardew [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:09 pm ]
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I am glad we are blooding new players but does indicate that season hasnt started as at all planned
Whether you agree with this weeks axings not sure when we began planning in January for matches in March/April that we thought we would go into a match without all of thorton waite bower and austin in the back half - shows our depth I suppose if we win tomorrow BUT also indicates that the best laid plans can go awry

Also although I like the combo of gartlett betts and yarran I am not sure that is the strong preference of the match committee given tomorrow is the first time they have all played together once again this has been forced on us rather than planned

Arguably out of our best side before the season starts we go into the game without thorton bower maclean waite
Author:  Setanta for Pres [ Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:42 pm ]
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Virgin Blue wrote:
RF Betts (160), Barry Hall type Recruited Via Trade (250), Garlett (60)


Would Fev qualify as the Barry Hall type?????
Author:  The Blueseum [ Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:10 am ]
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We had 4 AFL debuts by this stage last year and 3 the year before:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... 05+to+2009

From the Blueseum
Author:  molsey [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:50 am ]
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....who have both done really well and acclimatised at a great rate of knots, suggesting to me that both are in or near the Best 22. Good reason to promote them - they're good!
Author:  coryne [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:18 pm ]
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Lucas has been DAMN GOOD in his 2 games, and White was servicable and a result of sending a message to our squad (play to you ability of get dropped) and did a good job when he came in ................

Also suggests that we have some injuries in the backline (Bower, Austin) so we had to promote a mature aged recruit to fill a void ..............

I wouldn't read ANYTHING into it.
Author:  Virgin Blue [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:34 pm ]
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Nicko Carstairs wrote:
Agree. Hasn't Geelong had a debutant or 2


Important for Premiers to blood youth bec if they don't they will suffer a huge vaccuum in a few years when all their list is old.

Also, top teams like Cats are able to blood youth and not lose games, bec the 90% of the team that is talented and experienced get them across the line

Good to see Blues blood kids constantly, tells me they know they need to improve further still
Author:  TheSwan [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Two Debutants in just the first 4 Rounds
Virgin Blue wrote:
Does it tell us the MC maybe realise that some of the regular players in the team are not going to take us to Premiership glory, and there's a need therefore to blood some more young talent as soon as possible?


hmm you do realise its not 2003?

Now is the time to win and only blood youngsters if they deserve it. It just so happens there have only been 2 thus far.
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