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Author: | simonverbeek [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Carbon copy. CARBON FRICKEN COPY of every time we’ve played them. The players should hang their heads in shame. The lazy running and errors were a disgrace. And Brett Ratten should most certainly hang his head in shame. No emphasis on stopping their run through the corridor. No effort to correct the structural mistakes of games past. A disgrace! PROS 1. Kade Simpson – should’ve captained all three games. The only player to win his position tonight. 2. Gee, I’m struggling. Eddie? Did pretty well. 3. Nice to see Kane lucas get a bit of it. 4. Russel was ok I guess. 5. Kill me CONS 1. Brett Ratten has no answer to stop Essendon*’s run through the middle. It shouldn’t be that hard, they switch to the corridor with strict regularity, but we watch on. Embarrasing for Ratten. 2. When under pressure we hug the boundary. It lacks courage, is meek, and does nothing to help us. How the coaches have not taught our players to take more risks through the middle is beyond me. 3. Our skills are atrocious. We have too many poor kicks to build a successful side. Some of these guys just have no future. 4. Some players – Walker is lost – the matchup on gumbleton was terrible but he’s not really putting his hand up to play anywhere else. Has his kicking gotten worse? Warnock – CAN’T CATCH to save himself. Liability McLean – he might be OK, might not. But was he worth a first round draft pick. Really? Thornton – worse than last week. Had concrete in his boots. Setanta – still frequently has no idea what to do and makes unforgivable errors. 5. Fumbling! Our midfield backed up after last week’s sterling effort with a punity and pathetic performance. They had butterfingers. Why wasn’t Murphy’s tagger put under any pressure? Weak! Just a weak, embarrassing, pathetic performance. Players were shit. Ratten was shit. Waste of bloody time |
Author: | livolover [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
extremely disappointing....but awfully predictable ! pros 1. tonight marks the beginning of the end....for B Ratten - smart people make mistakes, stupid people make the same mistake twice...but only B Ratten makes the same mistake over and over again ! (Sidenote - The truly amusing thing is that the closest ratts has come to beating Essendon* as coach was in his first game against them when we were actually trying to lose !!!!!!) |
Author: | The Hoff [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pros: I'm trying... hang on... Nope. I got nothing. Oh yeah, I got one: Hoffs are housebound with Baby Hoff, so we didn't have to travel to watch that scintillating display of ineptitude and apathy. Cons: Pretty much everything in navy blue. Disgrace. |
Author: | camel [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pros - Simpson was good - Armfield had a crack - Eddie, quiet but has talent - Yarran, as above - Lucas, serviceable debut Cons - We shouldn't have lost to the team Essendon* put on the park Serious questions need to be asked as to why we did. |
Author: | Teddy Hopkins Son [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pros One week closer to Rattens axing Cons To have a supposedly superior team look so inept and impotent...against the Bombers! |
Author: | septembergurl [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:24 pm ] |
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PROS -It was a nice evening to be at the MCG. -Its over. CONS -We suck. -We don't care that we suck. |
Author: | Juddy&theKruezers [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
livolover wrote: extremely disappointing....but awfully predictable ! pros 1. tonight marks the beginning of the end....for B Ratten - smart people make mistakes, stupid people make the same mistake twice...but only B Ratten makes the same mistake over and over again ! (Sidenote - The truly amusing thing is that the closest ratts has come to beating Essendon* as coach was in his first game against them when we were actually trying to lose !!!!!!) Exactly...Ratts is a top bloke but not a coach.. |
Author: | verbs [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Juddy&theKruezers wrote: livolover wrote: extremely disappointing....but awfully predictable ! pros 1. tonight marks the beginning of the end....for B Ratten - smart people make mistakes, stupid people make the same mistake twice...but only B Ratten makes the same mistake over and over again ! (Sidenote - The truly amusing thing is that the closest ratts has come to beating Essendon* as coach was in his first game against them when we were actually trying to lose !!!!!!) Exactly...Ratts is a top bloke but not a coach.. Joel Bowden? |
Author: | Juddy&theKruezers [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:30 pm ] |
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Teddy Hopkins Son wrote: Pros One week closer to Rattens axing We can only dream...but don't like your chances.... |
Author: | verbs [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:31 pm ] |
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote: Teddy Hopkins Son wrote: Pros One week closer to Rattens axing We can only dream...but don't like your chances.... Who do you dream of coaching Carlton? |
Author: | rotten [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
PROS Simmo was good Yarran showed flashes, real skill when he gets it Lucas made mistakes but looked a player CONS disposal - too many players with below average skills no-one stood up, lacklustre effort Gibbs - getting a bit concerned that he is soft Walker - how far backwards has he gone Structure - nothing, no running, no idea, no plan? Really disappointing game as no-one seemed to have intensity (apart from Simmo) |
Author: | Michael Jezz [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pro Lucas Cons. Coaching Panel is substandard. Either you surround Ratten with better assistants or you find an A grade coach Kicking efficiency is the key to the modern game. The current group is not capable of becoming a topside because it lacks a pool of players who can execute effective disposal (Walker, Robinson, Carazzo plus others). Some players have to go. It is not that they are not AFL standard, it just that our team lacks balance. Backline is brittle Key Forwards non existent -Caz, maybe you were a little too optimistic |
Author: | dadadadada [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pros: I am struggling here ... Oh, serviceable debut from Lucas Cons: Lack of intensity from the outset. We had the opportunity to intimidate them early with some hard physical presence but didn't. Our list management is woeful. We have assembled a list with lack of run, shocking foot skills, sloppy first contact with the ball and lack of footy smarts ... are we going to blame Ratten for that too. On the Ratten side ... not enough moves to generate something different ... he knew what the bombers were going to serve and failed to prepare. |
Author: | Taff [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Michael Jezz wrote: Pro Lucas Cons. Coaching Panel is substandard. Either you surround Ratten with better assistants or you find an A grade coach Kicking efficiency is the key to the modern game. The current group is not capable of becoming a topside because it lacks a pool of players who can execute effective disposal (Walker, Robinson, Carazzo plus others). Some players have to go. It is not that they are not AFL standard, it just that our team lacks balance. Backline is brittle Key Forwards non existent -Caz, maybe you were a little too optimistic A fair call - would add Yarran, Simmo to the Pro. Yes Gibbsy is getting a rep as soft at the contest. |
Author: | Bluey44 [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
Pro -Judd is back next week |
Author: | Virgin Blue [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
simonverbeek wrote: Carbon copy. CARBON FRICKEN COPY of every time we’ve played them. The players should hang their heads in shame. The lazy running and errors were a disgrace. And Brett Ratten should most certainly hang his head in shame. No emphasis on stopping their run through the corridor. No effort to correct the structural mistakes of games past. A disgrace! PROS 1. Kade Simpson – should’ve captained all three games. The only player to win his position tonight. 2. Gee, I’m struggling. Eddie? Did pretty well. 3. Nice to see Kane lucas get a bit of it. 4. Russel was ok I guess. 5. Kill me CONS 1. Brett Ratten has no answer to stop Essendon*’s run through the middle. It shouldn’t be that hard, they switch to the corridor with strict regularity, but we watch on. Embarrasing for Ratten. 2. When under pressure we hug the boundary. It lacks courage, is meek, and does nothing to help us. How the coaches have not taught our players to take more risks through the middle is beyond me. 3. Our skills are atrocious. We have too many poor kicks to build a successful side. Some of these guys just have no future. 4. Some players – Walker is lost – the matchup on gumbleton was terrible but he’s not really putting his hand up to play anywhere else. Has his kicking gotten worse? Warnock – CAN’T CATCH to save himself. Liability McLean – he might be OK, might not. But was he worth a first round draft pick. Really? Thornton – worse than last week. Had concrete in his boots. Setanta – still frequently has no idea what to do and makes unforgivable errors. 5. Fumbling! Our midfield backed up after last week’s sterling effort with a punity and pathetic performance. They had butterfingers. Why wasn’t Murphy’s tagger put under any pressure? Weak! Just a weak, embarrassing, pathetic performance. Players were shit. Ratten was shit. Waste of bloody time What this guy said |
Author: | azzablue [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:40 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
livolover wrote: extremely disappointing....but awfully predictable ! pros 1. tonight marks the beginning of the end....for B Ratten - smart people make mistakes, stupid people make the same mistake twice...but only B Ratten makes the same mistake over and over again ! (Sidenote - The truly amusing thing is that the closest ratts has come to beating Essendon* as coach was in his first game against them when we were actually trying to lose !!!!!!) Summed up perfectly. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | 17th Premiership [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:40 pm ] |
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pros: good debut from lucas my wife liked the thermos i bought for her cons: it was like we were completely surprised at their unpredictable tactics after focusing on not hyping the game, we came out and played exactly in that fashion - as if we were playing a scratch match in the local park wouldn't have mattered if Judd had played. when we play this mob we just freak out. |
Author: | Virgin Blue [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Round 3 - Pros and cons |
livolover wrote: extremely disappointing....but awfully predictable ! pros 1. tonight marks the beginning of the end....for B Ratten - smart people make mistakes, stupid people make the same mistake twice...but only B Ratten makes the same mistake over and over again ! (Sidenote - The truly amusing thing is that the closest ratts has come to beating Essendon* as coach was in his first game against them when we were actually trying to lose !!!!!!) Pi$$ing myself, almost as funny as Zombieland ![]() |
Author: | azzablue [ Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:42 pm ] |
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Bluey44 wrote: Pro -Judd is back next week hope he has been band from watching karate movies on the off season..... |
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