Realistically 30 - 40 goals? Or could he surprise us all?
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| Author: | blueblood2345678 [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | What impact can the big irishman have? |
Realistically 30 - 40 goals? Or could he surprise us all?
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| Author: | Blue Sombrero [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
If you go to 'Talking Players', look under '17 Setanta O'hAilpin', you will have some idea what people think. Welcome to TC... |
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| Author: | jimmae [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
Well he weighs about 100 kilos, and will transition to about 11 m/s on the lead at peak, so according to Newton's Second Law: I = m x Δv = 100 x 11 = 1100 N.s Given an impulse length of roughly half a second: F = I/Δt = 1100 / 0.5 = 2200 N, or like getting 225 kilos added to your person at the point of impact. Oh, you meant on the score sheet... Apparently I've been repressing my inner nerd too much |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
jimmae wrote: Well he weighs about 100 kilos, and will transition to about 11 m/s on the lead at peak, so according to Newton's Second Law: I = m x Δv = 100 x 11 = 1100 N.s Given an impulse length of roughly half a second: F = I/Δt = 1100 / 0.5 = 2200 N, or like getting 225 kilos added to your person at the point of impact. Oh, you meant on the score sheet... Apparently I've been repressing my inner nerd too much I'm with you jimmae so far...looks convincing....what's next? |
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| Author: | Lowey_47 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
Hoping he gets through round 2 unscathed so he can do some david hille impacts in round 3... |
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| Author: | molsey [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
Leading club goalkicker would be something of an impact. |
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| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:35 pm ] |
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Is on course to kick 77  Seriously though, he seems good for 2-4 gls/game, but the diff btw good fwds and great fwds is the ability to haul in the big mark and kick the crunch goal when it is needed - he hasn't shown he can do that consistently yet, but of course he is only just arriving as a fwd so maybe in time he will turn out to be a very good fwd What I like about him though is he gives a contest on the ground, makes him dynamic and I think in the modern game his athelticism and ability to produce at ground level is a bonus. Wish he was 24 
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| Author: | molsey [ Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
This is not a prediction or me saying that he will be anything more than a useful AFL forward. But... Many years ago I saw Setanta kick 7 at Williamstown Oval, with hard, direct leading up the field and straight kicking. I was sitting with 4 or 5 guys and all the discussion was around how he would have to find another job because we had Fev and Fev wasn't going anywhere. Setanta has natural forward tendencies and I think we've been kicking to him really well - good shots over defenders head who try to cover his great pace on the lead. Useful forward. Played all over the place for all of those other reasons. |
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| Author: | ryan2000 [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
molsey wrote: This is not a prediction or me saying that he will be anything more than a useful AFL forward. But... Many years ago I saw Setanta kick 7 at Williamstown Oval, with hard, direct leading up the field and straight kicking. I was sitting with 4 or 5 guys and all the discussion was around how he would have to find another job because we had Fev and Fev wasn't going anywhere. Setanta has natural forward tendencies and I think we've been kicking to him really well - good shots over defenders head who try to cover his great pace on the lead. Useful forward. Played all over the place for all of those other reasons. I was there that day and became an INSTANT fan. I thought the same thing at the time...... No Way would he take over Fev or Whitnalls spot. But I did think he could make it in the Ruck. I always had a lot of faith and belief in Setanta and still do. I think he has been poorly managed by the club. Throw him in the ruck, then in defence, then in the ruck, then up forward, then drop him if he makes the slightest mistake, then throw him in defence, then ruck, then forward, then ruck, then drop him again................... etc etc etc! He looks settled up forward. So PLEASE leave him there! If he can kick 30-40 goals than thats just brilliant i say! Love the big irishman. |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: What impact can the big irishman have? |
Setanta will kick bags in 2010. He's still young. He's just taken a long time to mature; prbably due to mismanagement imo. Imagine what he would have become if we didn't have Fev all these years. I remember his first game and goal in theat game against the Toggers. We copped a hiding that sorry day, but The Irishman really was the shining star from that day. When he believes he belongs and gets sick of losing the opportunitiy for goal from spilt marks, hooked set shots and awkward snaps, he might kick 10 before Fev does. He'll get better too. |
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| Author: | Blue Revival [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:00 pm ] |
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love the big Setant. what he lacks in football nous is more than made up for with 100% commitment to the contest, and the team. you wont see any sulking or abuse directed to any team mates from Carlos. so glad to see him be given a chance to develop as a forward. |
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| Author: | Dc449 [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:43 pm ] |
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Dont like him, i would be glad if he leaves. I reckon henderson |
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| Author: | Teddy Hopkins [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:02 pm ] |
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Dc449 wrote: Dont like him, i would be glad if he leaves. I reckon henderson Come on Dc, leave Henderson to develop at CHF and Irish at FF. As others have said let Setanta settle in the one position finally. If he gets 2 to 3 goals a game we will all be laughing. 
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| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:07 pm ] |
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He must be unpredictable to the opposition if he himself doesn't even know what he's going to do next. |
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| Author: | phoenix johnson [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
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Will kick 60. And if he doesn't he'll go bloody close. Get more confident with his grabs and back himself in after taking said grab and he will become very dangerous. |
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| Author: | spf [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:33 pm ] |
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Well if we kick the ball to him even half as many times as we used to for Fevola and he then marked and had shot on goal for around 50% of those, then he will kick some serious bags. I cannot remember the full stats for the the amount of times we directed the ball to Fevola for 2009 but it was alot. Give Setanta anything like that kind of service (with backup) and he'll kick plenty. Personally I think around 45-50 for the season but possibly (and I wouldn't be surprised) in excess of 60 if he really gets some confidence. I think Henderson is also capable of kicking 30-40 goals this season so between the two of them Fevola is well and truly covered. Add on Yarran, Betts, Kruezer and Murphy and we should in fact score more than last year. |
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| Author: | verbs [ Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:59 pm ] |
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Fevola kicked as many goals as he did because he knew where to run and when to run there and could hold on to the ball when it got there more often than not and could kick the ball through the goals around 50% of the time. O'hAilpin isn't the instinctive lead up full forward Fevola is but is definitely capable of kicking 50+ this year. |
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| Author: | Buzza4 [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:35 am ] |
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Dc449 wrote: Dont like him, i would be glad if he leaves. I reckon henderson Mmm... you have proposed a well thought out argument there... Why wouldn't everyone drop everything they're doing and agree to what you say? Sounds a bit trollish to me... "Dont like him, i would be glad if he leaves..." |
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| Author: | Blue Blood Believer [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:07 am ] |
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Blue Revival wrote: love the big Setant. what he lacks in football nous is more than made up for with 100% commitment to the contest, and the team. you wont see any sulking or abuse directed to any team mates from Carlos. so glad to see him be given a chance to develop as a forward. Only when he kicked Clokey in the Date, just after he'd floored him 
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| Author: | Indie [ Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:07 am ] |
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He was just ahead of the game on that one. Ratts gave him the ar$e and kicked him out as soon as he could. |
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