On paper Carlton is a young team with genuine prospects, but one that needs at least two players - such as Warnock and Yarran - to really emerge.

People seem to have very short memories these days and forget the club actually won 13 games last year with very young list and we had some big outs, Waite missed 14 games, Walker only returned late played 6 games all year , we had Cam Cloke as number 1 ruck for big portions of the year - or as a second forward target- Stevens was in his worst form of his career - Scotland struggled for most of the year with injury and he and Stevo were dropped - We had Bentely and Hartlett getting games, Chris Johnson was our leader in defense at the start of the season- Jamison was out when it counted- Even Fevola played the first half a dozen games with a heal problem and wasn't his usual self . Wiggins was our CHF for the first 8 or so games -Ohalpin Settled into the spot then got polaxed by Fev and ended his year , Russell was struggling up Forward and didn't really find his place until late when he played on Stevie Johnson . Warnock didn't get on the Paddock and we lost Jacobs for about 8 or so weeks maybe longer - Carrazzo missed almost half the games when he broke his arm in the preseason and suffer another set back later

Look I know similar things could all happen again but when you consider the significance of someone like Waite missing 14 games - when he went down they were saying it was season over for Carlton and people were declaring we would miss the eight


We will be Ok this year don't worry

i love the idea of Kreuzer as a ruck-rover. jumps like a ruckman, runs like a winger, gets the hard ball like a centreman. impossible match up!!

i love the idea of Kreuzer as a ruck-rover. jumps like a ruckman, runs like a winger, gets the hard ball like a centreman. impossible match up!!

The only time I remember us playing Kreuz as a ruck-rover was against Geelong in the NAB Cup last year. Matched up against Joel Corey, you soon realised he's very agile and athletic, great across the ground for a ruckman, but no chance in the world he's a ruck rover.

Decent article which is far too good for the rag it's in. Agree with most, though re Setanta: "There is no query on his courage or willingness, more on his ability to take regular pack marks. But we are talking about an athletic 199cm unit."

I wouldn't have thought pack marking is something we are looking for out of him. He is already a good mark. Making the most of his opportunities in front of goal and minimising rash decisions (eg playing on when he really shouldn't) would be much higher on my list.