Well so far, the trade has almost mirrored the Schwass/Grant trade, let's hope it continues down that path!
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Heard something a while back that caught my attention. A caller rang in SEN from memory and noted that there is an incredible resemblence between the Wayne Schwass for Shannon Grant trade that happened about 1998. Schwass had a solid career for the Roos, gave them great service over the years, and was getting on in age. Shannon Grant was fairly new on the AFL scene, and had several years of footy ahead, great footy at that. So, Schwass was able to offer the Swans a few seasons (three or four I think) before retiring in 2002, while Grant stayed at North for about 10 years where his career really flourished, retiring in 2008. What this caller had highlighted seemed quite valid. When you look deeper at our trade, Fevola for Henderson, it seems like the same type of trade on the surface. Fevola is 28 years of age, (Schwass was 30 at the time of trade in 1998), has had a great career with the Blues but is getting on in age. Henderson on the other hand is fairly new, turning 21 years of age this year, the same age as Grant was in 1998. The only difference is that Grant had more experience than Henderson at the time of trade. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | budzy [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Grant was a big game player ...bit like the dominator (but not as good of course). Would be nice if Hendo could influence big games as well. We'll soon see.... |
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Well so far, the trade has almost mirrored the Schwass/Grant trade, let's hope it continues down that path!
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
All they have in common at this stage is that they were both trades. Time will tell on the rest. |
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| Author: | camel [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Henderson will win more flags than Grant and Fevola will win as many with Brisbane as Schwass did at the Swans. 
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Henderson will win a Norm Smith like Grant did with the Kangaroos
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| Author: | brazilbeliever [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Geez there is a lot of pressure on the kid ... but I think he is a gem ... needs a couple more years and then BANG ... sausage rolls galore! |
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
brazilbeliever wrote: Geez there is a lot of pressure on the kid ... but I think he is a gem ... needs a couple more years and then BANG ... sausage rolls galore! My norm smith medal reference was just a bit of tounge in cheek. But I still expect him to give us at least 10 years of good service. |
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| Author: | Jaguar [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Captain Dan wrote: Heard something a while back that caught my attention. A caller rang in SEN from memory and noted that there is an incredible resemblence between the Wayne Schwass for Shannon Grant trade that happened about 1998. Schwass had a solid career for the Roos, gave them great service over the years, and was getting on in age. Shannon Grant was fairly new on the AFL scene, and had several years of footy ahead, great footy at that. So, Schwass was able to offer the Swans a few seasons (three or four I think) before retiring in 2002, while Grant stayed at North for about 10 years where his career really flourished, retiring in 2008. Thoughts? I'd still rather have Fev (sober and switched on). |
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
But that's the thing Jag, a trouble-free Fev was never going to happen. After too many off-field misterbeaners, the club was basically backed into a corner to move him on. Besides, I couldn't see him staying around another 10 years to deliver us a period of sustained success. Immediate success- yes. But sustained over a long period- definitely not. |
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| Author: | DownUnderChick [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Captain Dan wrote: But that's the thing Jag, a trouble-free Fev was never going to happen. After too many off-field misterbeaners, the club was basically backed into a corner to move him on. Besides, I couldn't see him staying around another 10 years to deliver us a period of sustained success. Immediate success- yes. But sustained over a long period- definitely not.
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| Author: | coryne [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Jaguar wrote: Captain Dan wrote: Heard something a while back that caught my attention. A caller rang in SEN from memory and noted that there is an incredible resemblence between the Wayne Schwass for Shannon Grant trade that happened about 1998. Schwass had a solid career for the Roos, gave them great service over the years, and was getting on in age. Shannon Grant was fairly new on the AFL scene, and had several years of footy ahead, great footy at that. So, Schwass was able to offer the Swans a few seasons (three or four I think) before retiring in 2002, while Grant stayed at North for about 10 years where his career really flourished, retiring in 2008. Thoughts? I'd still rather have Fev (sober and switched on). Yes, I am sure we all would, but this form of Fev just doesn't exist ................ Fev = immature, whining, brilliant footballer, but you don't bet the brilliant without the immature and whining ........... |
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| Author: | Captain Dan [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
DownUnderChick wrote: Captain Dan wrote: But that's the thing Jag, a trouble-free Fev was never going to happen. After too many off-field misterbeaners, the club was basically backed into a corner to move him on. Besides, I couldn't see him staying around another 10 years to deliver us a period of sustained success. Immediate success- yes. But sustained over a long period- definitely not. Haha, thought that one would get a reaction 
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| Author: | Jaguar [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
coryne wrote: Jaguar wrote: Captain Dan wrote: Heard something a while back that caught my attention. A caller rang in SEN from memory and noted that there is an incredible resemblence between the Wayne Schwass for Shannon Grant trade that happened about 1998. Schwass had a solid career for the Roos, gave them great service over the years, and was getting on in age. Shannon Grant was fairly new on the AFL scene, and had several years of footy ahead, great footy at that. So, Schwass was able to offer the Swans a few seasons (three or four I think) before retiring in 2002, while Grant stayed at North for about 10 years where his career really flourished, retiring in 2008. Thoughts? I'd still rather have Fev (sober and switched on). OK. Question is how do we feel if he turns all that around in Brisbane under Voss and becomes a good citizen as well as a champion footballer? Yes, I am sure we all would, but this form of Fev just doesn't exist ................ Fev = immature, whining, brilliant footballer, but you don't bet the brilliant without the immature and whining ........... |
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| Author: | Big Kahuna Boot [ Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fev/Hendo Likened To Schwass/Grant |
Jaguar wrote: OK. Question is how do we feel if he turns all that around in Brisbane under Voss and becomes a good citizen as well as a champion footballer? ..he very well may too, and good luck to him and then, even though i'll feel let down, but that's how it goes sometimes.. ..he may have needed to get moved on for him to finally learn.. ..also, he may only play another 2 or 3 yrs, and at a new club he might just 'behave' but not really have grown/changed ya dig.. ..factor in less media, brions using 'minders' and he might not be too different up there, from down here.. ..we'll all see soon enough i guess.. .... ..but i reckon some of his selfish on-field ways will slip back in after a bit.. |
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