I echo a lot of concerns by posters in this thread. I too worshipped him and he was (and still is) my favourite Carlton player ever. Up until recently when we renovated the house my walls were still clad with posters of him. But the job of president is just not for him in my opinion. Nothing against him personally as I said, people can only fulfil their duties to the best of their abilities, but I'm afraid a change is needed. Although, Sticks should definitely remain around the club as he is a passionate Carlton man.

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Perhaps with the imminent appointment of Raphael Geminder to the board it might be an opportune time for Kernahan to step aside.

I have posted this a number of times in the past. So too have other posters.

Kernahan was Elliott's Vice President, he stood behind him 100%. At the EGM at the end of 2002, he defended the incumbent Board. At that meeting, he was asked about the performance of the football department (of which he was a part), given we had just 'won' our first Wooden Spoon. He said that the football department, including himself, had failed, had not performed.

He was then asked about the performance of the Board, given we were millions in debt (not to mention being investigated for salary cap breaches). He said, "I don't know about that stuff, you'd better ask John (Elliott) that".

If he failed in the football department, and did not know about Board issues, what the hell was he doing?

After the Board was thrown out, and he was voted onto the new Board, he admitted that the Elliott Board had not prerformed adequately.

He was then part of an ineffectual Collins Board, followed by an ineffectual Smorgon Board. Before the election in which Smorgon was eventually voted out, Kernahan again defended the Board to the hilt, warning that voting for change would be a disaster for the Club, that this was the Board that would take the Club forward.

Lo and behold, as soon as Smorgon was voted off, but Kernahan retained, he admitted that the previous Smorgan Board had not preformed and that the Board really needed to get it's act together.

In 2007, Kernahan knocked on Pratts door and said, we're f*cked, can you help? Brilliant! Genius! How a Board member could come up with such a stroke of inspiration I'll never know!!!

Actually, I do know. The Board was so incompetent, including its Vice President, who had been Vice President of the three previous incompetent Boards, that there was only one, last desperate option - get on your knees and beg someone who did know what he was doing.

Stephen Kernahan is a champion of Carlton Football Club. He is one of the greatest players and captains this Club has seen. He has gave so many of us so much pleasure as a footballer. What we would give right now to have a 23 year-old Stephen Kernahan standing at CHF! His heart bleeds navy blue. He is Carlton through and through. And we all love him for that.

However, Stephen Kernahan has failed as a Board member and as a President. He has shown time and time again that he is out of his depth. He does not have what it takes to lead this great Club off the field.

There are still significant problems with the leadership of this Club. The fish rots from the head. It is time for change.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Great post Siegfried.
We all love Sticks, but he is out of his depth as President.

I am seeing a return of the pre pratt days since his passing.

You have to aks yourself whether Sticks would get a presidency gig at another club ... I doubt it.

Slamming players up against the lockers on January 4th will do little. He needs to talk with them one by one and let them know what damage this has caused the club and question the players on how they are individually going to turn things around.

+1. Further to that, Sticks needs to ask himself, "How am I going to turn it around?" A good place to start would be his resignation, effective on January 4th, 2010.

Ralph G could come on the board, with the caveat from the Pratt family that no $$ will be committed until:
* Sticks is replaced as president;
* A good PR firm is employed to win back the brand of the CFC;
* A structure and culture is put in place where nothing (and I mean nothing) but the very best is expected and accomplished- and that includes standards of public behaviour that reflect the CFC as a professional sporting/business organisation; and
* Everyone employed @ CFC to win and strengthen their ties to the sponsors- God knows we could do with some in these tough times!!!!

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Kernahan is a dinasour who has encouraged a drinking bogan culture and lacks the professional qualities to lead the club.....I lay a lot of the blame at his feet. How can you lay down rules about drinking/behaviour etc when your president is still living in the past and getting smashed at functions etc...Greg Swann needs a capable president to work with and not some bogan figurehead.

His addressing of the players when they return is a joke akin to Tiger Woods addressing the faithfull over the virtues of fidelity......
He is a throwback to the Elliott years and incapable of leading the club forward...

Lets replace this fool with a capable leader who can lead by example.....

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81% want him out, strong message to send.

We need to find someone who wants the gig. They have to have something to offer. Then we as fans present him to the board and to Sticks and discuss a smooth change over. I am sure if he suitable Sticks will have no problem standing aside.

Anyone know anyone?

Richard Newton would be my choice from who we have on the board, business background which is what you want these days and seems to have some common sense.
No more mates of mates etc etc...dodgy appointments... and someone who knows about finance which is far more important than knowing how to get the top off a " crownie" which is about Sticks only qualification...
No more of this old school drinking culture mentality which was a feature of the Elliott years and before.....Sticks is stuck in the past and isnt helping us grow and its damaging the club. Hughes can recruit the best kids in the world but if they are placed into a crap culture they quickly fall off the rails...

Kernahan needs to go and any players stuck in the past with him also need their marching orders........if you are no good off the field you wont be any good on it generally......Swann cant act alone in reforming the club and we need professionals helping him not neanderthals like Kernahan..

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What should Kerna's role be at Carlton? Football or board?

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The board doesnt want Sticks to stand aside and neither does he... he is very comfortable...

Sticks loves it.. hes a president... he should have been a fork lift driver but hes the president of the greatest club in the land but he is running it into the ground....

And noone will challenge Sticks.. little old dears love Sticks .

And the board wants Sticks for as long as Sticks is president theyre all safe... Sticks is their force shield

Lets get serious.

Incompetant president
Hopeless board for the most part... (Harrison not included... hes a gun)
A CEO that looks like he is running from major issues.. and hes on too much money so he doesnt wanna rock the boat it seems... too cooshy..
A coach who has not cut his teeth in coaching.. and talks about vital stuff like "old Carlton" and "Getting the Carlton swagger back"... and "Give it to the champ"
A bunch of coaches beneath him handpicked out of AFL coaching obscurity...
and a bunch of unprofessional footballers (a couple of exceptions) who dont understand its getting down to inches and one percent that makes all the difference these days in quarters .. matches .. season...

If you can gain %.. its vital.. and yet our blokes wanna booze and party.. so when they have to be prepared theyre busy trying to get themselves to reasonable shape.. instead of already having that base and improving on that.

And we have a recipe for a flag for sure...

All you have to do is think about it.. and you know were on the wrong tram.

But it starts from the top.. and filters down .

I believe we have a bunch of blokes around the club who believe we will win a flag cos were Carlton... meanwhile as we sleep other clubs are working hard day and night.

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His role should be to get as far away from the club as possible.
He hinders everything just being around the place.
He should just go to Adelaide and see if he can make a difference to Glenelg.
He is president.. you want him to just be on the board after this?
Or Chairman of selectors?
Hes already done those roles... poorly...

He is just an ex footballer.. thats what he is...

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I voted yes just to show how easy these things are to manipulate - hehe

Wasn't Kernahan supposed to be a stand in for a short period of time when Mr Pratt died? In any case he should offer his resignation. Once again zero leadership has been shown this week. Surely it was known to the club that this cruise was going ahead. It was a moronic idea given the goings on of the past few months. It shouldn't have gone ahead in the first place and Kernahan should have been on the front foot when the story broke, not silent for 4 days.
This club rolls out of one disaster into another and its been going on for 8 years. Yet again we are a laughing stock, under investigation by the AFL, losing sponsors/potential sponsors and members.
The players should also be reminded that they have achieved ZERO so far as a team! A stronger message should be sent than a token 5k fine, I find that down right insulting! It doesnt amount to more than a tap on the wrist to these blokes. Why does he have to wait until the 4th of January to lay down the law? That just gives the media and the entire town 2 more weeks to speculate.
Enough is enough. As president he should take full responsibility for the incident and the piss poor way that its been handled and fall on his sword.

I also believe that the CEO is escaping his share of criticism .
He is in charge of the day to day running of the club.

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I think Greg Swann should be the one handling this fiasco, not Sticks. Rough road ahead.

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I think the CEO may be strategically letting nature takes its ultimate course...


Merry Christmas to all blues fans ...think happy thoughts today

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There's so much I could say...

The players will probably just think he's taking the mickey out of them and not take him seriously. Heck, do us supporters even take him seriously?

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Sticks should just leave the cleansing to the professionals (Leading Teams) and go away...

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There's so much I could say...