Hate the term, but our ‘window’ could be open for years to come.
| TalkingCarlton http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/ |
|
| List by Ages http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=26969 |
Page 1 of 2 |
| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | List by Ages |
Thought it would be worthwhile to show our list, in terms of player's ages. Had to draw the line somewhere, so I decided if a player's bday is in June or earlier, then their bday in 2010 gets included in their age, whereas if their bday is in July onwards, their bday in 2010 does not get included in their age. If that makes any sense. Scotland 29 Houlihan 28 Hadley 27 Wiggins 27 Waite 27 O'hAilpin 27 Carrazzo 26 Judd 26 Fisher 26 Thornton 26 Simpson 26 McLean 24 Walker 24 Jamison 24 Johnson 24 Warnock 23 Armfield 23 Russell 23 Betts 23 Bower 22 Grigg 22 Murphy 22 Hampson 22 Jacobs 22 Anderson 21 Austin 21 Browne 21 Gibbs 21 Joseph 21 Robinson 21 Kreuzer 21 Ellard 21 Henderson 20 Garlett 20 Lucas 19 Tiller 19 Davies 19 Yarran 19 O'Keefe 19 Kerr 18 |
|
| Author: | Navy Blue Horse [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Hate the term, but our ‘window’ could be open for years to come.
|
|
| Author: | DownUnderChick [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
VB, if I may be so bold as to place a break between certain age groups to get a better picture please. Scotland 29 Houlihan 28 Hadley 27 Wiggins 27 Waite 27 O'hAilpin 27 Carrazzo 26 Judd 26 Fisher 26 Thornton 26 Simpson 26 McLean 24 Walker 24 Jamison 24 Johnson 24 Warnock 23 Armfield 23 Russell 23 Betts 23 Bower 22 Grigg 22 Murphy 22 Hampson 22 Jacobs 22 Anderson 21 Austin 21 Browne 21 Gibbs 21 Joseph 21 Robinson 21 Kreuzer 21 Ellard 21 Henderson 20 Garlett 20 Lucas 19 Tiller 19 Davies 19 Yarran 19 O'Keefe 19 Kerr 18 Agree with NBH - very big window of opportunity. |
|
| Author: | 4thchicken [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
If you look at the ages of recent flag lists, I'd suggest that our window would open in about 2 years time (3 max). Thats when our early picks are largely 23+ with a good strong older/seasoned 27+ group (ie judd, waite, houlihan/scotland, carazzo, simpson, thornton) |
|
| Author: | bondiblue [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Good thread. Thanks DUC for your list. I'm a visual person because I have to deal with data and spreadsheets for many hours each day. The point made is we are young by age but great with talent. The other point to consider is we have depth. Like many others I have CFC list spreadsheets, and when age/ height are considered we have a Golden Decade ahead of us. I believe in this list. IMO in terms of class, it's better than 2000 (the best we had in the last decade). Whose age suggests they are on the way out? Obviously attention is drawn to the older players. Scotland 1-2 years (I suspect 2010 is it as the younger brigade surpass him) Houlihan 2-3 years (he was our best in the final) Hadley 1-2 years (question marks on his body) Wiggins 1 year (I suspect 2010 is his last; depth player) Waite, Setanta and Houlihan imo will be at their peak as senior players in the next 2-3 years and will play in a GF. The Golden Decade starts in 2010. |
|
| Author: | kkk [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
DownUnderChick wrote: VB, if I may be so bold as to place a break between certain age groups to get a better picture please. Scotland 29 Houlihan 28 Hadley 27 Wiggins 27 Waite 27 O'hAilpin 27 Carrazzo 26 Judd 26 Fisher 26 Thornton 26 Simpson 26 McLean 24 Walker 24 Jamison 24 Johnson 24 Warnock 23 Armfield 23 Russell 23 Betts 23 Bower 22 Grigg 22 Murphy 22 Hampson 22 Jacobs 22 Anderson 21 Austin 21 Browne 21 Gibbs 21 Joseph 21 Robinson 21 Kreuzer 21 Ellard 21 Henderson 20 Garlett 20 Lucas 19 Tiller 19 Davies 19 Yarran 19 O'Keefe 19 Kerr 18 Agree with NBH - very big window of opportunity. Yikes! We have no-one in the vital 25 to 25 age spread. |
|
| Author: | klakker [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Interesting thread . Good stuff . There's certainly plenty of talent there to make use of . Good experienced players , huge talent in the early 20s , and the younger squad look OK too . Up to the coaches from now on . |
|
| Author: | dannyboy [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
kkk wrote: Yikes! We have no-one in the vital 25 to 25 age spread. apparently WH never recruits that age bracket
|
|
| Author: | Teddy Hopkins [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
kkk wrote: Yikes! We have no-one in the vital 25 to 25 age spread. kkk I haven't seen your signature before, I remember Cliffy Stewart, blonde wingman of the 1960s. Underrated. Didn't he get sick or something and have to retire? |
|
| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
I think the other thing this list shows, is we have so much youth we can probably afford to use the $1M spare in the cap and trade away some picks for proven, elite talent. Would you happily part with our first 2 picks next year for say a Roughead? |
|
| Author: | 4thchicken [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
yup - easily. Roughhead would have a good 7-8 years left. I'd part with 1st 3 rounds of picks. Hawks wouldnt take it though |
|
| Author: | teagueyubeauty [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Here we go, multiple pages on getting Roughead  No chance in hell we'll get him, its fine to speculate but lets be realistic. |
|
| Author: | kkk [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Teddy Hopkins wrote: kkk wrote: Yikes! We have no-one in the vital 25 to 25 age spread. kkk I haven't seen your signature before, I remember Cliffy Stewart, blonde wingman of the 1960s. Underrated. Didn't he get sick or something and have to retire? Can't remember if it was rheumatic or glandular fever. Probably not helped by Des Tuddenham knocking him out every time we played Collingwood. |
|
| Author: | Marc Shmurf 3 [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
teagueyubeauty wrote: Here we go, multiple pages on getting Roughead No chance in hell we'll get him, its fine to speculate but lets be realistic. But Roughead was a Carlton supporter wasn't he?
|
|
| Author: | eric pascoe [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
kkk wrote: Teddy Hopkins wrote: kkk wrote: Yikes! We have no-one in the vital 25 to 25 age spread. kkk I haven't seen your signature before, I remember Cliffy Stewart, blonde wingman of the 1960s. Underrated. Didn't he get sick or something and have to retire? Can't remember if it was rheumatic or glandular fever. Probably not helped by Des Tuddenham knocking him out every time we played Collingwood. Pretty sure it was glandular fever. Gutsy and skillful player |
|
| Author: | Stefchook [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Didn't realise Hadley was that old. I like him as a player and what he can add to our squad. But he'd want to make a decent impact this year, or his career might be in some jeapordy. |
|
| Author: | Anencephalic [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Scotland, Houlihan, Wiggins and Fisher. Real testing year for these blokes. Hadley as well but he was in some good form towards the end of last year. |
|
| Author: | Captain Dan [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
O'hAilpin is 27??? I didn't know that, thought he was a few years younger. Although, I am liking the patch of players we have around 24 years of age. Premiership window opening indeed!! |
|
| Author: | JohnM [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
People might want to look at that list from time to time during the season. Despite having talent and promise, it'll be important to remind ourselves that Henderson is younger than Grigg, Joseph, Robinson, Jacobs... etc. We shouldn't expect too much too soon. |
|
| Author: | Stefchook [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List by Ages |
Good point. |
|
| Page 1 of 2 | All times are UTC + 10 hours |
| Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group http://www.phpbb.com/ |
|