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| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? Judd Gibbs Murphy McLean ?? |
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| Author: | thegezman [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
personally i dont think stevens should have ever been included in the initial touted 'fab 4' Kruzer will be the 5th as he's not a pure mid so to speak. mclean will complement the other three perfectly. release judd! |
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| Author: | bluegirl72 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I guess what you're asking Virgin is... Will our mclean be showing?(grrroaaannn) |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I dont think we really need a fab 4, would much rather have a tremendous ten that are able to rotate through the midfield. |
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| Author: | Blue Blood Believer [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
TruBlueBrad wrote: I dont think we really need a fab 4, would much rather have a tremendous ten that are able to rotate through the midfield. What he said |
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| Author: | ScottSaunders [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
first we got judd then we got warnock now we get mclean kudos to the recruitment staff, that is three very handy players to recruit from other clubs, if we could somehow get everitt ... i would say that is probably the best influx of players from other clubs any club has managed, in a 3 year period. top that off with our fleet of quality draft picks coming through ... its starting to happen 
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| Author: | coffee man [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I don't think we need a fab 'four' as much as a awesome midfield.... (whoever said 4 was the magic number?) Was just watching the WC v SYD grand final they're replaying on ONE and boy that was a midfield I think McLean can be a bit of a rowan jones or chad fletcher (expect better) for our boys and dish it out, tackle and block for them etc. Yes i know we got one of those Eagles midfielders but I think Judd Murph and Gibbs can be even better than that group I reckon Murph and Gibbs still have a LOT of development left in them |
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| Author: | samboymolloy [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I couldn't believe some of the rubbish i heard on radio today. The boys from 3AW think that Melbourne are the winners out of the trade. The boys from League teams on foxtel seem to think the same. The Ox and Robbo said Melbourne supporters would be delighted with pick 11 for Mclean. Brian Taylor was the only who rated Brock saying he is a good midfielder to which Shaw and Parkin replied he is average, lacks leg speed and turns the ball over. From what i understand pick 11 in this years draft is basically pick 21 as GC17 have hand picked the best 17 year olds out of this years draft pool. Im pretty sure it was Ricky Nixon who said a pick within the first 5 is worth holding onto, anything out side of that is a lucky pick. Im more than happy to part with pick 11 for a tough hard nut like Mclean. Having Mclean in the middle could possibly allow Gibbs to play 'play maker' setting up play through half back and the middle, Juddy can play a more outside role and Murph continuing as a rover........ for me, thats worth pick 11 |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I don't know about a fab-4 (seppo bullshit really from Hird to get us to lose to the scum), but Brock definitely fills a gaping hole in our midfield, especially if Hadley is done at Carlton. |
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| Author: | tommi [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
So.......... i've been eating a meat pie for dinner every night for the last three months...........the only problem is......i haven't been able to get tomato sauce to go with it.........which would make it SO much better...........! i'vebeen going to the milk bar each night hoping they'll have tomato sauce......but DANG.......bloody Bee Bee Queue only........... sure it's only 5 cents a packet......but i don't want Bee Bee Queue sauce.....i want TOMATO sauce.............! so i go in last night.......and right next to the the Bee Bee Queue sauce what do i see........? yup.....tomato sauce.............only thing was........it was TEN cents........! what did i do............? i bloody bought me that sauce THAT'S what i did........i didn't care about the ten cents.......cos i wanted tomato sauce...... ney...........i NEEDED tomato sauce.........cos when i put that sauce on my pie.........i just KNOW it's going to taste great............! kindest regards tommi hmmmm............................................................................peckish............! |
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| Author: | seanpb [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
tommi wrote: So.......... i've been eating a meat pie for dinner every night for the last three months...........the only problem is......i haven't been able to get tomato sauce to go with it.........which would make it SO much better...........! i'vebeen going to the milk bar each night hoping they'll have tomato sauce......but DANG.......bloody Bee Bee Queue only........... sure it's only 5 cents a packet......but i don't want Bee Bee Queue sauce.....i want TOMATO sauce.............! so i go in last night.......and right next to the the Bee Bee Queue sauce what do i see........? yup.....tomato sauce.............only thing was........it was TEN cents........! what did i do............? i bloody bought me that sauce THAT'S what i did........i didn't care about the ten cents.......cos i wanted tomato sauce...... ney...........i NEEDED tomato sauce.........cos when i put that sauce on my pie.........i just KNOW it's going to taste great............! kindest regards tommi hmmmm............................................................................peckish............! I see, I see. Probably the most interesting post in this thread, ney! THE most interesting. |
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| Author: | Teddy [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Yes, Brock has the potential to be an A+ footballer. He is in the top 5 of his draft year - 2003. Cooney is number 1 and then it's hard to split... McLean, Heath Shaw Brent Stanton Jed Adcock with Sylvia and Daniel Jackson coming on strong Walker could probably be in the top 5 but injuries have made it hard to assess him on form alone. As fopr our Fab 4, it will hopefully be a Fab 5. Simmo is so close to become an A+ footballer. If he can lift his output 5-10% he will get there. He has played an incredibly consistent high level of football for the last 3 years. He could very well take that next step. |
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| Author: | Anencephalic [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Brock is to be the other inside player we need. When Hadley was injured we really missed his get the hands on the ball attitude. Probably not fast enough / skilled enough to be an outside player. It is very rare for players to be able to do both effectively like Judd. |
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| Author: | Virgin Blue [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
I'm not sure he is Fab Four material, but he is very, very handy as he is exactly what we need and should be a fine player for us. But not fab Four. The 4th Fab Four spot is reserved for Chris Yarran |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Some of the great midfields of recent times Carlton 2000: Kouta, Campo, Ratten, Bradley + Matty Allan coming off All-Australian honours Brisbane 2001-2004: Voss, Akermanis, Lappin, Black, Power West Coast 2005-2006: Judd, Kerr, Cousins, Embley + Cox, the best ruckman of the modern era Geelong 2007+ Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Corey, Selwood St Kilda 2009: Hayes, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna These groups are 'fab fours'. We're on the way to reaching that level, but not there yet. |
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| Author: | 4thchicken [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
4th spot will be joseph 
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| Author: | BlueLulu [ Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
tommi wrote: So.......... i've been eating a meat pie for dinner every night for the last three months...........the only problem is......i haven't been able to get tomato sauce to go with it.........which would make it SO much better...........! i'vebeen going to the milk bar each night hoping they'll have tomato sauce......but DANG.......bloody Bee Bee Queue only........... sure it's only 5 cents a packet......but i don't want Bee Bee Queue sauce.....i want TOMATO sauce.............! so i go in last night.......and right next to the the Bee Bee Queue sauce what do i see........? yup.....tomato sauce.............only thing was........it was TEN cents........! what did i do............? i bloody bought me that sauce THAT'S what i did........i didn't care about the ten cents.......cos i wanted tomato sauce...... ney...........i NEEDED tomato sauce.........cos when i put that sauce on my pie.........i just KNOW it's going to taste great............! kindest regards tommi hmmmm............................................................................peckish............! You really are a funny fella aren't you? I really hope you enjoy that pie....tomato sauce just makes it perfect Let's hope Brock does too! |
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| Author: | Teddy [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Donstuie wrote: Some of the great midfields of recent times Carlton 2000: Kouta, Campo, Ratten, Bradley + Matty Allan coming off All-Australian honours Brisbane 2001-2004: Voss, Akermanis, Lappin, Black, Power West Coast 2005-2006: Judd, Kerr, Cousins, Embley + Cox, the best ruckman of the modern era Geelong 2007+ Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Corey, Selwood St Kilda 2009: Hayes, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna These groups are 'fab fours'. We're on the way to reaching that level, but not there yet. I think you may have forgotten one Donstuie... Carlton - 1995 Williams, Bradley, Ratten (Carlton B & F '95), Kouta (All Aust '95) + Justin Madden |
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| Author: | bondiblue [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Warnock/ Hammer/ Kreuzer tap the ball to Judd Gibbs Murphy Walker Simpson McLean Joseph Hadley Carrazzo Now, pick your Fab 4 from the above. If we can't get a Fab 4 out of that then you're not looking at them in their prime as you have with all the other Fab 4's. I think Bettsy does really well whenever he plays midfield. Carrots is a hard body who accumulates. Our midfield group will continue to grow, develop and surprise. I'm not concerned about Fab 4's, I like to judge the package of the midfield group. You're only as good as your weakest link. There's no weakies in the list above. |
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| Author: | TruBlueBrad [ Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Brock good enough to be the no.4 in a Fab Four? |
Teddy wrote: Donstuie wrote: Some of the great midfields of recent times Carlton 2000: Kouta, Campo, Ratten, Bradley + Matty Allan coming off All-Australian honours Brisbane 2001-2004: Voss, Akermanis, Lappin, Black, Power West Coast 2005-2006: Judd, Kerr, Cousins, Embley + Cox, the best ruckman of the modern era Geelong 2007+ Ablett, Bartel, Ling, Corey, Selwood St Kilda 2009: Hayes, Dal Santo, Goddard, Montagna These groups are 'fab fours'. We're on the way to reaching that level, but not there yet. I think you may have forgotten one Donstuie... Carlton - 1995 Williams, Bradley, Ratten (Carlton B & F '95), Kouta (All Aust '95) + Justin Madden + Fraser Brown |
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